felixthecat
are we there yet?
Course we have Mormons! There's a Mormon church about 2 miles away from where I live - they're commonly known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints.
Mormons is a lot catchier
Why don't we have a bible belt?
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Course we have Mormons! There's a Mormon church about 2 miles away from where I live - they're commonly known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints.
Mormons is a lot catchier
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
I have braces with the devil on them, which kind of counts.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Course we have Mormons! There's a Mormon church about 2 miles away from where I live - they're commonly known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints.
Mormons is a lot catchier
I used to live with someone who was mates with a mormon. He'd come over with his girlfriend, and he wouldn't drink or do drugs or have sex and she said she was fine with that but one night coming over without him and langered she was hitting on me because "she just needed the sex". I didn't, btw.
Poor annoying mormon.
Be that as it may, there isn't IME the same pressure in Brixton to wear a cross and show your face in church every week or be ostracised and bullied as I've heard Pagans and Wiccans living in the Bible Belt (and mostly too scared to "come out") describe.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
I take it you have not spent much time in Peterhead, or parts of the Western Isles & Central Scotland then?
The recent rise in the number & profile of certain evangelical churches is something that disturbs me as well, also the activities of some of the more cultish churches/groups.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
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pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Oh yes we do.
This Mormon church is just a few minutes away from me & there is a much larger one in, a suburban town nearby. Young Mormons out to gain converts in the "missionary" phase of their education are frequently found knocking on doors here.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Most licencing laws in the whole country date back to around then.
There were some earlier ones however - IIRC, the first Scottish laws were enacted to stop drunk workmen plummiting to their deaths off the Forth Rail Bridge. The vast majority of accidents here were alcohol related as the Hawes Inn in particular was famous for sending jars of ale up to the workmen on ropes dropped from the structure & later from its own boat.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Stop talking out of your arse firky, the US is considerably more religious than the UK: something like 80% of the population say that they believe in the God of the Xtian bible, as opposed to less than 70% in the UK who say they believe in 'a' god, but not necessarily the bible.
There's no real 'bible belt' in the US either - it's just a convenient term for coastal dwellers and Europeans to jam everyone between Missouri and California into one easy-to-understand lump of bible-thumping crazies.
As to why there isn't one in the UK...geography, because as has been pointed out there are hotspots of Evangelism/Methodism and the JWs and Mormons are the two biggest growing churches in the UK...not to mention there now being more church attending Catholics than CofEs...
Refused as fuck
"ethnic pakistani tosser"
You're on a doomed mission, son.
The US is much more religious than the UK, and the rest of Europe, and large sections of Asia. It's the most religious developed industrial nation. The UK is amongst the most atheist. Even a Spanish friend who was visiting Seattle (the least religious city in the US according to some poll) was surprised by the number of churches! And we think of Spain as one of the most religious countries in Europe.
geminisnake
a complex mass of conflicting ideas
There is in Aberdeen, and sometimes they travel
I suspect they're in Aberdeen coz of the oil industry.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Nah, they were here before. The Andy Dr church was up before oil arrived. Although it probably didn't do them any harm TBH & the Cults/Culter church is certainly in the heart of the original area favoured for US settlement.
Superdupastupor
fun to funky
Oh yes we do.
This Mormon church is just a few minutes away from me & there is a much larger one in, a suburban town nearby. Young Mormons out to gain converts in the "missionary" phase of their education are frequently found knocking on doors here.
is that in edinburgh????
it looks indentical to the LDS church 10 mins from my dad's gaff if not.....identikit churches
So you think Christians have the monopoly on real religion? I'm sure members of the other 2 main monotheisms (Judaism and Islam), plus Hindus, Buddhists, and Sikhs will be delighted to know that their faith, beliefs and practices have nothing to do with religion.
So you think Christians have the monopoly on real religion? I'm sure members of the other 2 main monotheisms (Judaism and Islam), plus Hindus, Buddhists, and Sikhs will be delighted to know that their faith, beliefs and practices have nothing to do with religion.
Nopt sure how you've got that from Kysers post.
I think that America, although technologically advanced is in a stage of cultural development as a country that is two hundred or so years behind Europe. They are going through a phase that Britain went through in Victorian times.
For example they only recently have been having the debate about Evolution that we had during Darwin's time. Many Americans of the older generation seem to have a Victorian attitude to sexual morality. Their rulers are still in the imperialist phase of their relations with the outside world. Some Americans probably find the non-American world a frightening place and seek solace in a belief in the supernatural.
For example they only recently have been having the debate about Evolution that we had during Darwin's time. Many Americans of the older generation seem to have a Victorian attitude to sexual morality. Their rulers are still in the imperialist phase of their relations with the outside world. Some Americans probably find the non-American world a frightening place and seek solace in a belief in the supernatural.
I dont know where to start with us except to say its complete cock.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Yep.
Belushi
Start at the beginning and go through each statement in turn. This is a discussion forum after all.
Start at the beginning and go through each statement in turn. This is a discussion forum after all.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
I saw a mormon in Brixton yesterday. I think he was anyway. They wear badges saying "Brother whatevermynameis". They're always wearing white shirts and suit trousers and a tie and are very clean-cut. Or are they something else?
Do I really have to explain things for you?
Read the quote I replied to.Kyser-soze defines being religious as believing in the Christian idea of God, as mentioned in the Bible. If he didn't, he wouldn't have used that data given to back up his arguement that the USA is more religious than the UK.
He could have used census data, which gives a more detailed picture of not only how many people are at least culturally Christian, but what the religions (or religious affiliation i.e. which one you'd go for if you had to choose one) of the population are.
Christianity is a religion, not the religion. Alles klar?
Do I really have to explain things for you?
Kyser-soze defines being religious as believing in the Christian idea of God, as mentioned in the Bible. If he didn't, he wouldn't have used that data given to back up his arguement that the USA is more religious than the UK.
He could have used census data, which gives a more detailed picture of not only how many people are at least culturally Christian, but what the religions (or religious affiliation i.e. which one you'd go for if you had to choose one) of the population are.
Christianity is a religion, not the religion. Alles klar?
I suspect you've completely misunderstood his post tbh.
There are genuine Mormons in Brixton alright, but they're probably missionaries from the USA. They get encouraged out in the early years of adulthood. Hence you don't see many (if any) female Mormons - among other things they're not usually permitted to preach. There are homegrown Mormon temples, or were, but they tend to be clustered in Wales and northern England.
Seventh Day Adventists are almost Mormons but not quite, with more or less the same rules for diet (no stimulants, unless you count "Mormon tea" which contains ephedra), modest dress, and the same thing of Saturday being the Sabbath, instead of Sunday. They tend to be homegrown (including in some of the old colonies), instead of imports.
tbh I suspect you have difficulty with logic.
Oh, your post hangs together logically, I just think its based on a false premise - a misreading (deliberate?) of Kysers post.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
They just do things different: more ostentatious. Bigger cars, bigger guns, bigger meals, bigger religion.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
There are genuine Mormons in Brixton alright, but they're probably missionaries from the USA. They get encouraged out in the early years of adulthood. Hence you don't see many (if any) female Mormons - among other things they're not usually permitted to preach. There are homegrown Mormon temples, or were, but they tend to be clustered in Wales and northern England.
I've always thought they looked American. A bit too clean-cut and tanned to be spotty British teenagers
Not sure about their underwear though
felixthecat
are we there yet?
SDA almost Mormons? Never heard that before and I would imagine my SDA friends would be horrified. There are loads of differences, but the crucial one is that Adventists do not believe in Hell, which the Mormons definitely do.
SDA is descended from the Millerites, who in themselves were a Baptist offshoot. If anything, its more like Presbytarianism. The dietary restictions are more Jewish than Mormon - true they do not use stimulants but they also avoid pork and shellfish. In fact, it is recommended that Adventists become vegetarian - a fair few of those I know are veggies. In fact, they could be closer to Rastas in their dietary laws
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Also, SDAs don't believe in the Book of Mormon, the Prophet Joseph Smith, or the archangel Moroni.
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