bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
This is what people have been telling him. But he'd rather sit back and bitch rather than do anthing himself, innit.
Why doesn't the left oppose IIP and other boss' initiatives?
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This is what people have been telling him. But he'd rather sit back and bitch rather than do anthing himself, innit.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
double post thanks to stupid login-logout-login-logout-login-logout problem.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Sadly, the left matters in that it still kind of influences which issues get huighlighted and which don't.
In my experience, people will perhaps moan about issues like IIP privately, but will not speak up in the workplace itself (this goes for many, many issues). Add to that a feeling that the TUs don't want to tackle the subject (for reasons that aren't clear), and the unwillingness to say anything is compounded.
Over the many years I really have gained the impression that certain workplace matters are strictly "off limits" for criticism from the TUs - and IIP seems to be a very clear example of this phenomenon.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
The organisation I work for has IIP status, according to the bumf, which I have just looked at properly for the first time, gives employees the following benefits.
- A good working environment
- Recognition and development
- Pride in being part of a successful organisation
- Good quality training when required
- Improved job satisfaction
- Better communication
- Skill and career development opportunities
- Increased responsibility and involvement
- Health and safety gains.
Poster you seem to have a problem with employee advancement/promotion & appears that you would be happy if no one advanced within their work, the king in his castle & the peasant in their hovel, knowing their place & all that. I find that attitude puzzling, surely one of the primary objectives of the TUs is the advancement of their members, through initiatives such as IIP.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
If the TUs are so useful to the managment why do you think they're going to dissapear?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Does it occur to you that the actual outcome may be different to the stated aim?
No, I want to see a situation where the workers advance their conditions in unity and as one rather than indulge in selfish corporate-ladderclimbing and competitiveness.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
By giving your boss more opportunites to have private one-to-one bullying sessions - sorry chats - with you, of course. And creating a miasma of stasi-reports - sorry, appraisals, to hold over your head.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Yep - and all these shitty schemes encourage this.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
I think that depends on the manager. I have had a manager who used appraisals a you have described above. Even going as far as to rewrite your appraisal, especially the employee feed back section. I have even gone as far as refusing to sign a rewritten appraisal. But the appraisal process can be a useful tool for both management & employee. I used my last appraisal process to show that I have earned an additional payrise & to get further 3rd party training that I can take to any future employer. But there is a tendency for the appraisal process to just be another time filler for the real enemy of the workplace.. the HR dept.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Another question that has to be asked is; if things like IIP are so good for the workers, why is it the bosses who are so manically in favour of them (and I mean manic - once they've set their hearts on getting these, they're like rabid dogs over a shredded squirrel. All other work goes on hold)?
dennisr
the acceptable face
"the trade unions and the left have donre nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
dennisr
the acceptable face
"the trade unions and the left have done nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
dennisr
the acceptable face
"the trade unions and the left have donre nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
dennisr
the acceptable face
the problem for poster is, mk12...
"the trade unions and the left have donre nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
dennisr
the acceptable face
you are like a shredded squirrel
thats because:
"the trade unions and the left have done nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
dennisr
the acceptable face
So I will blame the trade unions and the left becasue:
"the trade unions and the left have done nothing to deal with these issues" blah, blah, blah
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Another set of helpful, in-depth and analytical replies from dennisr, there.
dennisr
the acceptable face
Indeed many ask the same question. Because your posts consist of 'the trade unions and the left are to blame' for everything since the eve and the apple (given the level of guilt involved i can only assume judeo-christian origins for your lack of willingness to take any responsibility for anything
.and you do nothing except blame everybody else. what have you ever done? (asked for the 20th time...) beyond making things up on bulletin boards when you boss isn't looking that is
bosses try and impliment crap initiatives - shock horror. So this is a new scheme that only appeared last week? (don't answer that - I already know the answer) Remind us all again what you have done about this management initiative mr. 'angry' ?
for fucks sake
dennisr
the acceptable face
- I like to follow my guru poster-jiyou expect me to 'analyse' and waste time 'debating' in reply to your inaine twattery?
arrogance is the other side of attention seeking troll - and hey - i'm giving you attention ain't i ?
when are you going to agree to meet me? - are you as cowardly with other real people as you are with managers and employers?
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