Why do they speak like that then?
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nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
Like you? Most of what you post here is lies or bullshit. But I'll give you a clue: there's a song called "Beware the Blackleg Miner".
Still continuing your petty wee vendetta phil? How old are you? 12?
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
No, you've never heard of anything that doesn't fall outside your narrow field of vision/thought.
Wasn't it you who said "History isn't progress"?
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
Fool, of course it hasn't (but once again you prove how inept you are at reading other people's posts). As for 'proof' you'll just have to accept my word...won't you?
I will not be bullied by a egomaniac like you. Now do us all a favour and kindly fuck off.
Whoah, that was a rare good thread till a minute ago!
It's certainly ineresting how we not only arrive at different accents, but also different vocabulary. As mentioned above, most certainly to do with socio-linguistics, the things we say to the people we speak in the situation we're in.
Very much an identity thing.
It's certainly ineresting how we not only arrive at different accents, but also different vocabulary. As mentioned above, most certainly to do with socio-linguistics, the things we say to the people we speak in the situation we're in.
Very much an identity thing.
nino_savatte
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Just to get back on topic (before Urban's resident egomaniac returns), if we look at the Scouse accent we find that it contains elements of Irish, Welsh and southern Lancastrian.
nino_savatte
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fela fan said:
"Settle down"? You only just arrive and tell me to "settle down"? It isn't a game...or at least to not phil, who has taken it upon himself to stalk me all over Urban. The man is raving egomaniac with a narcissistic personality disorder, whose threads are an extension (let's say wing) of his ego.
Perhaps you should have a word with him fela.
nino_savatte said:
Settle down, Nino. I don't want to derail this interesting thread, but you said something that, as a Welshman, I found strange and slightly insulting. You said that "Welsh scab labour" had been used in the pits of the north-east. I have never heard of such a thing, so I politely asked you to provide a source. You could not do so. I think you should apologize for what I'm sure was an honest mistake, rather than an ethnic slur. Will you now do so, please?
nino_savatte said:Perhaps you should have a word with him fela.
No can do mate. It's yours and his spat.
I only came on coz it looked like you were well stressed out with such anglo-saxon words, and being calm is much nicer than that...
And it doesn't matter a squeak when one arrives, just that an arrival takes place.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
Stop taking the piss. It's funny I've heard nothing from other Welsh folk here. Why you? No, don't answer that...you're still stalking me and it makes you feel better to belittle others.
How about you do some reading of your own? Or, like with your "rational proof" thread, you will no doubt get others to do your work for you.
Who said "history isn't progress"?
nino_savatte
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fela fan said:
You're a little one-sided. Only to be expected.
nino_savatte said:
To be honest, Nino, I was genuinely interested. The Welsh in general, and the miners in particular, enjoy an unrivalled reputation for class solidarity and union militancy. So it would surprise me greatly to learn that "Welsh scab labour" was used in the north-east, and I would relish the opportunity to learn more about it, if it were true. But I don't think it is, I think you made it up, for whatever reason. A shame.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
No, I haven't made it up...though I am sure you would like me to have done so. Perhaps you will also tell me that miners from other parts of the country weren't used in a similar fashion in the 19th century?
You don't expect me to believe you are being sincere when you say you are "interested" do you? You really do reckon yourself - don't you?
"History isn't progress"...remember?
Agent Sparrow said:Btw, this subject has always reminded me of the musings in the Mary Whitehouse Experience pointing out the first settlers to the USA would have been from Plymouth, and if the Plymouth accent had remained then a lot of the films would have seemed quite different...
How we laughed
I don;t think they were from Plymouth though - that was just where they left from.
American accents vary widely across the US, some are closer to Scandinavian than British.
The accent from the Northern coast of Netherlands sounds quite like scottish or the Newcaste accents.
nino_savatte said:
If you haven't made it up, it should be an easy matter to provide the source. Just *where* did you learn that "Welsh scab labour" was used in the north-east coalfield? Why won't you provide the source? Unless you do so, we are reluctantly forced to conclude that you have been lying again.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
You're projecting again, bully boy.
Tell you what, you provide [rational] proof of God's existence and I'll see what I can do.
cathal marcs
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Major Tom said:
Have noticed that myself
Orang Utan
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I thought it was talking amongst transportees was forbidden when they were stonebreaking or whatever it was they did, so they had to communicate furtivelty and concisely, hence the accent and the lingoMrs Magpie said:
Now that I've been in the UK for a while I've been able to start hearing the origin of accents in Australia and NZ from accents in England, Ireland and Scotland. I suppose it is the mixture of various peoples that colonised places like Aust and NZ that makes accents peculiar to the area, much as the Dutch accent influenced the accent of South Africans (as well as Xhosa and Zulu pronunciation, although you probably won't get a S African to admit this. Man, they get good tans too, them white S Africans ) You can also hear the influence of Afro-Carribean accents in kids' pronunciation from all sorts of backgrounds in London.
Orang Utan-Kiwis weren't prisoners of Mother England yet they developed an accent, too. Can see the point on the lingo.
) You can also hear the influence of Afro-Carribean accents in kids' pronunciation from all sorts of backgrounds in London.Orang Utan-Kiwis weren't prisoners of Mother England yet they developed an accent, too. Can see the point on the lingo.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I know, my dad's a Kiwi - their accent is a lot mellower - there's a lot of Kiwis with Aussie heritage which could account for something.Poi E said:
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I admit I only have anecdotal knowledge of this, but my folks came to NZ via Australia, and so does my colleague's folks!Poi E said:
(So that's most of the NZers I know!)
Orang Utan said:I admit I only have anecdotal knowledge of this, but my folks came to NZ via Australia, and so does my colleague's folks!
(So that's most of the NZers I know!)
Actually that is quite interesting. It's only recently that NZ has had big problems of losing people overseas, never to return. Your parents were the vanguard!
I'm happy to be away from the underlying air of violence.
Bernie Gunther
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There does appear to be a monsoon though, except it rains *all* year round.Johnny Canuck2 said:
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