Why do some people take the piss and get away with it so much?

[butchersapron]

Nah, not any more. Wage slavey like everyone else

But unlike you I tend to see the argument from both sides and don't make it an ideological thing that worker = always right, boss = always wrong cos it's not true.

And if you don't see it that way you do a damn good job of giving that impression...

That's experience mate - a law of survival if you will - from the tower of babel to the great pyramids, to a cardiff call centre, i was there and this was the rule - do as little as possible, without shoving work on your mates, cover for them if they're having a bad day and they'll do you the same in return. Fuck the bossese and their profits.

 

[revol68]

mate what fucking utopia do you live in?

Can everyone go get a dream job?

Doesn't someone have to do the shit?

And i'm not planning on doing this shit for the rest of my days, im hoping to do a masters next year whilst working here.

Infact i'm only really working now to clear my uni debts and pay my way through post grad.

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm not talking about 'dream job' revol, I'm talking about something that makes 37-45 hours of your week less of a pain in the ass and marginally more rewarding and less personally hateful than the one you do at the moment?

 

[revol68]

I'm not talking about 'dream job' revol, I'm talking about something that makes 37-45 hours of your week less of a pain in the ass and marginally more rewarding and less personally hateful than the one you do at the moment?

this is the best job i've had but it is still a completely alienating waste of a my fucking time. It does nothing for anyone other than make some rich cunt richer, so that he can in turn reinvest it in an ever ending cyclone of complete meaninglessness.

Capitalism by it's very nature makes our labour alienated, thats why im a libertarian communist.

 

[kyser_soze]

So, does your commitment to your principles and beliefs make your working day intolerable, or close to it? Do you spend each day angry, annoyed and frustrated that we live in a capitalist society?

Cos if it did me I'd fucking change my situation.

 

[revol68]

So, does your commitment to your principles and beliefs make your working day intolerable, or close to it? Do you spend each day angry, annoyed and frustrated that we live in a capitalist society?

Cos if it did me I'd fucking change my situation.

well i take hope in small victories and i do wanna change my situation but what you fail to grasp is that it is not "my" situation but rather a situation shared with billions across the globe and it's only in recognising it as a social situation we can overcomeit.

And yes capitalism does depress me, I see so much potential wasted cos of the irrationality of capital.

editted* are you suggesting I change my desires in order to be happier, I can't imagine how it would be possible, it's not like I can unlearn how shit capitalism.

 

[kyser_soze]

Ah right, so you're suffering for the thousands like you in miserable jobs they hate...

And it is 'your' situation as much as it is the rest of the worlds dude - most immidiately it makes your life miserable and it's the most immediately changeable. I mean fine, save the world and that all well and good but staying in a job that makes you personally miserable...nah.

And I mean find something that matches your skillset that isn't in such a soul destroying organisation - or indeed, find out what your good at and start doing it yourself. There's nothing that says you can't run a business on collective principles and funding...altho in practise it's seriously fucking hard (I know from experience)

Anyroad...

 

[revol68]

im not trying to save the world at all, i hate tossers who are revolutionaries for other peoples causes.

I'm just saying my situation is social, and i have no desire to stay in this job for long, but it is the best job im going to be offered ion belfast anytime soon, as you've probably worked out from the amout of time i'm on these boards.

 

[Firky]

i hate tossers who are revolutionaries for other peoples causes.

PML!! Irony!!

So you only 'revolt' for want of a better word for your self? Fuck me! you ARE a selfish twat.

 

[kyser_soze]

@ the last line.

Fair play there.

 

[revol68]

PML!! Irony!!

So you only 'revolt' for want of a better word for your self? Fuck me! you ARE a selfish twat.

no it's cause i don't see a contradiction between my desires and other peoples, infact if im to realise mine other people must also realise theres.

Of course a thick cunt like yourself would have problems grasping anything outside the individualist liberal paradigm, that understands desires as something at the expense of others.

And just out of curiosity whats worse, being a selfish twat or a hand wringing do gooder ala Bono?

 

[zenie]

quite clearly my dear you are sad.

Please justify this comment when you nothing about me or my chosen career path?

 

[chegrimandi]

skiving at work is cool. Cooler than smoking even. It is everyones duty to take as much from the employer as possible. After all they take enough from you.

 

[Firky]

I'm a thick twat? You're the one who can't argue your way out of a paper bag with out resorting to insults.

You're full of shit as they say in the trade.


"Then they came for me, and by then there was no one left to speak out for me."

 

[zenie]

well, i wouldnt phrase the question in the same way as revol but this is a pertinant question

why does it affect you whether she does her work or not?

because we worked as a team and what she didn't do then I had to.

If she was slow at her work then of course I carried her.

She's left now gone off to try again at Uni good luck to her.

END OF

 

[revol68]

what trade the plumbing one?

and Zenie your sad based on the petty attitude you have displayed towards another worker for not being an arselick.

 

[Firky]

what trade the plumbing one?

and Zenie your sad based on the petty attitude you have displayed towards another worker for not being an arselick.

Haven't you got a wevolt to go to or something?

 

[Hollis]

skiving at work is cool. Cooler than smoking even. It is everyones duty to take as much from the employer as possible. After all they take enough from you.

Yay!! Viva la revolution!

 

[revol68]

because we worked as a team and what she didn't do then I had to.

If she was slow at her work then of course I carried her.

She's left now gone off to try again at Uni good luck to her.

END OF

i think your back pedalling, why didn't u mention how she was leaving work for you?

Infact I'd go so far to say your lying, which is hardly unknown for brown nose.

Just out of interest what to do you work in?

 

[revol68]

Haven't you got a wevolt to go to or something?

as someone with a Northern Irish accent I would find it very hard to sound like a wadical wiberal selling the Socialist Worker.

Thank Fuck.

And seriously Firky your about as sharp as a box of condoms and as silly as a bag of cocks, as they say in the trade.

 

[Firky]

I think you're lying, wevol68

 

[kea]

how silly IS a bag of cocks, out of interest? is it an objective measurement of silliness? is there a scale?

 

[revol68]

how silly IS a bag of cocks, out of interest? is it an objective measurement of silliness? is there a scale?

not as silly as a bag of dildos, but more silly than a bag of cock straws at a hen night, and of course like everything else it is a relative measurement.

 

[revol68]

I think you're lying, wevol68

in some parts of the world it is tradition to specify the accusation.

 

[Firky]

in some parts of the world it is tradition to specify the accusation.

You know the bit that you quoted? That is the accusation right there.

Since you can't argue for toffee, and need to wesort to insults, and mysgonistic behaviour, I'll just ignore ya.

I admire butchersparon because he can argue properly. You OTH.... pfft, you're cwap!

Cya Wik.

 

[revol68]

You know the bit that you quoted? That is the accusation right there.

Since you can't argue for toffee, and need to wesort to insults, and mysgonistic behaviour, I'll just ignore ya.

I admire butchersparon because he can argue properly. You OTH.... pfft, you're cwap!

Cya Wik.

and how on earth do you reckon im mysgonist?

cos i think one woman who bitches about her work mate not busting her balls (see again I make male genitilia the normative) is a sad twat?

Your of course correct i only take issue with women as all my posts on P&P would no doubt show.

 

[Red Faction]

The official maximum number of allowable fag breaks during a day is calculated by multiplying your working hours by 12. Any more than that could be considered excessive and possible cause for a mild telling-off.

you're allowed 12 fags an hour?!
one every 5 mins
thats ridiculous
surely thats a sackable offence