Why do some people take the piss and get away with it so much?

[MysteryGuest]

I always steal as much time as I can at work. And pens. If they're any good. No point in stealing shitty biros. So what you have to do is make sure you put in an order for flashy rotring stylee artists' revolutionary ink flow system gel 0,7mm pens with see-through inkwells with little graded lines on them, then take the lot.

 

[kyser_soze]

People like Zenie make work even worse than it already is

People who do their jobs you mean?

Among the many reasons for not supporting revolution is that I'm not convinced that in a post-rev society that everyone would be pulling their weight, and that some would simply coast while others do the work.

I deeply suspect that revol68 is one such person and uses their political belief to cover up for the fact that they simply can't be arsed to do any work...

 

[Firky]

oh yeah i hate women, what afucking pile of pish you are talking.

the women is a twat who takes out her own frustrations on people who don't lick the bosses arse, and who have better things to be doing than work.

It has nothing to do with gender, a jobsworth is a jobsworth, cock or cockless, (note I made the possesion of a cock the normative there )

People like Zenie make work even worse than it already is, bitching about whose on the sick, whose late, whose been on tea break for 15 minutes. As long as the person isn't pushing their work unfairly onto you then why would you care? Or do you have shares in the business.

Jesus, you really are a nasty little shite!

Why are you so bitter? Didn't mummy give you enough love?

 

[kyser_soze]

Someone who misunderstands the meaning of 'jobsworth' certainly...

BTW,just so ya know - my comment above was directed SOLELY at revol68.

 

[Firky]

I deeply suspect that revol68 is one such person and uses their political belief to cover up for the fact that they simply can't be arsed to do any work...

Yup! Hence my picture of Rick

Must be dull being so easily readable

 

[girasol]

I start at 8 and finish when my work is done but I don't get paid more then her.
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I'm sorry, zenie, but, unless I'm getting this wrong, you sound a bit bitter here. It's your choice to work long hours and if she's doing the hours she's contracted for (and getting the job done) I don't see a problem...

I never understood this British obsession with working long hours...

apart from that it just sounds like a personality clash rather than anything else...

 

[revol68]

well sense I work for an insurance company I would hope that no one would be pulling their weight post revolution.

If Zenie was complaining about someone pushing all their work on to her I would understand it, but she isn't.

I'm quite capable of pulling my weight when it's for something i have enthusianism for, or atleast see the point of, which is why I worked as a volunteer for 2 years at a youth collective, cleaning up peoples drinks and puke. I didn't slack cos it was a collective effort with collective results.

And im one lazy fucker in work btw.

Try another hypothesis.

Can't believe the amount of jobsworths that have come out of the closet on this thread.

 

[Yossarian]

Doesn't spending a lot of time on internet bulletin boards rank a lot higher in the piss-taking stakes than leaving on time?

 

[revol68]

Doesn't spending a lot of time on internet bulletin boards rank a lot higher in the piss-taking stakes than leaving on time?

 

[girasol]

Doesn't spending a lot of time on internet bulletin boards rank a lot higher in the piss-taking stakes than leaving on time?

I should think so! Everyone back to work now!

slaps self's wrists...

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm quite capable of pulling my weight when it's for something i have enthusianism for, or atleast see the point of, which is why I worked as a volunteer for 2 years at a youth collective, cleaning up peoples drinks and puke. I didn't slack cos it was a collective effort with collective results.

So it was still something you wanted to do rather than had to do? Because it meshed with your own desires, wants or needs? What about if you had to do something you DIDN'T want to do, even if it was for the benefit of others.

Firky's right, you are a Wik.

 

[girasol]

Firky's right, you are a Wik.

Which definition of Wik? (practicing for citizenship test )

 

[rednblack]

Someone who misunderstands the meaning of 'jobsworth' certainly...

BTW,just so ya know - my comment above was directed SOLELY at revol68.

that's alright - i know you wouldnt dare

 

[rednblack]

Among the many reasons for not supporting revolution is that I'm not convinced that in a post-rev society that everyone would be pulling their weight, and that some would simply coast while others do the work.

nah, in any community worth it's salt people would be given a chance to contribute, and if they point blank refuse then they should be kicked out

 

[revol68]

So it was still something you wanted to do rather than had to do? Because it meshed with your own desires, wants or needs? What about if you had to do something you DIDN'T want to do, even if it was for the benefit of others.

Firky's right, you are a Wik.

no i didn;t want to clean up some e heads vomit but i did it cos I could see the wider point, it was something needing to be done, likewise I would do something I had to do no problem, say once a month it was my job to do the toliets, well I'd do it cause I realise that if everyone only done things they had a desires to do (in the narrow bourgeois definition of desire) then i'd be using a stinking toliet.

 

[kyser_soze]

nah, in any community worth it's salt people would be given a chance to contribute, and if they point blank refuse then they should be kicked out

Well, isn't the workplace a community? And aren't workplaces easier, happier and nicer places where people aren't taking the piss?

Iemanja - it's a whole new Wik definition!!

Shit, that reminds me that I haven't been paying attention to my editing lately...

 

[girasol]

Shit, that reminds me that I haven't been paying attention to my editing lately...

Me neither!

I've been too busy working!

 

[Firky]

Doesn't spending a lot of time on internet bulletin boards rank a lot higher in the piss-taking stakes than leaving on time?

LOL touché

 

[zenie]

Oh for gods sake this thread is so old – it shouldn’t have been bumped in the first place.

Sure there was a personality clash as stipulated in the first post but that wasn’t what the post was all about – the girl’s left now and it really doesn’t bother me anymore.

I don’t see myself as a jobsworth – I have a laugh as much as the next person.

I take offence to being called a ‘scab’ and a saddo’ simply because I get on really well with my boss and don’t try and spread my negativity across the company.

I am a shareholder yes although that’s not strictly my motivation – I like to do well in whatever I’m doing and feel you should work hard at your job if it’s something you believe in or a career path which you want to pursue.

 

[butchersapron]

And if it's not and you don't?

 

[rednblack]

Well, isn't the workplace a community? And aren't workplaces easier, happier and nicer places where people aren't taking the piss?
...

it is (or should be) and workmates should not push work on to others, by the same token workers should not make other workers look bad by doing more than they should, that is a mug's game frankly

also most work in the workplace is done for the benefit of the company profits not the workers

as an example when i was a union rep, me and my fellow rep worked our bollocks off for our fellow members, often did extra work, took phone calls at home etc - not just because we wanted to, but because by doing so we were helping the community of our workmates
when it came to our "proper" jobs however we were lazy as fuck, and none of our workmates cared - because we worked where it counted

so to sum up, if zenie was being pressured because of this woman's lazyness then fine, but from what she has said it was a simple dislike, and she is using her own capacity for self exploitation to justify that dislike

 

[butchersapron]

Anyway Kyser, you're an employer, a boss aren't you? I suspect that's why you want people to work to managements specs.

 

[Hollis]

it is (or should be) and workmates should not push work on to others, by the same token workers should not make other workers look bad by doing more than they should, that is a mug's game frankly

..
so to sum up, if zenie was being pressured because of this woman's lazyness then fine, but from what she has said it was a simple dislike, and she is using her own capacity for self exploitation to justify that dislike

Yep.. there's people who take the piss, and just don't even know how to play the game. Other "workers" get pissed off with them as much as management.

And I was also going to say that its easy when you're 'stressed' at work, to start blaming/moaning at other people.. d'you really know what they're doing?

 

[rednblack]

Anyway Kyser, you're an employer, a boss aren't you? I suspect that's why you want people to work to managements specs.

is he indeed? oh dear, oh dear...

 

[nogoodboyo]

Edited for pointlessness.

 

[Firky]

I'd make shite boss.

Smoking in the office, the office - come in when and as long or as little as you wanted, as long as you did the work etc.

Worked for a company like that, my boss even gave me a pill one morning. Was a bit nuts to work for, more like a big bunch of mates. Quite cliquey at times too - if you didn't go to the pub with them after work on a Thursday they'd moan at you.

Everyone loved their job though Including me! I just chose to leave because I didn't want to be stuck in a little country market town all my life.

 

[kyser_soze]

Anyway Kyser, you're an employer, a boss aren't you? I suspect that's why you want people to work to managements specs.

Nah, not any more. Wage slavey like everyone else

But unlike you I tend to see the argument from both sides and don't make it an ideological thing that worker = always right, boss = always wrong cos it's not true.

And if you don't see it that way you do a damn good job of giving that impression...

 

[revol68]

Nah, not any more. Wage slavey like everyone else

But unlike you I tend to see the argument from both sides and don't make it an ideological thing that worker = always right, boss = always wrong cos it's not true.

And if you don't see it that way you do a damn good job of giving that impression...

no i see it from the side i've always been on.

Why the fuck should i care for your fucking profits it's not like you wouldn't fuck us out on our ears when it suited your interests.

I work for a huge insurance company based in the states I have nothing but contempt for it and it's raison d'etre profit.

 

[rednblack]

But unlike you I tend to see the argument from both sides and don't make it an ideological thing that worker = always right, boss = always wrong cos it's not true.

 

[kyser_soze]

no i see it from the side i've always been on.

Why the fuck should i care for your fucking profits it's not like you wouldn't fuck us out on our ears when it suited your interests.

I work for a huge insurance company based in the states I have nothing but contempt for it and it's raison d'etre profit.

They're not *my* profits mate...

And if you hate it that much why not get a job doing something worthwhile or that you actually enjoy?