Johnny Canuck3
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The Elephant Man was british, wasn't he?
Johnny Canuck2 said:The Elephant Man was british, wasn't he?
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Originally Posted by jimmy3000
As for the Americans only going to Iraq for the oil. to me that is as stupid as saying police only go after criminals so they can confiscate the illicit money the criminals have made. Maybe the oil was a factor to say it was the only reason is moronic.
Though not in the same league as "by god did we find the terrorists".
jimmy3000 said:The English might be a bit crap. but the point I'm making is true, Instead of the one off nutters of 9/11 in Iraq it is like an endless conveyor belt of brainwashed lunatics ready to kill any number of people.
jimmy3000 said:The English might be a bit crap. but the point I'm making is true, Instead of the one off nutters of 9/11 in Iraq it is like an endless conveyor belt of brainwashed lunatics ready to kill any number of people.
Johnny Canuck2 said:Why are you quoting your own post?
Johnny Canuck2 said:Why are you quoting your own post?
Yuwipi Woman said:Not only that, but he's not an American. Americans don't use the word "nutter."
888 said:Why are you quoting your own post?
jimmy3000 said:Well spotted I am English. I think life is so easy when you are criticising from the background. All you energy is criticising Bush, but what if you had the responsibility what would you do, do you think you have it all worked out and that you could do such a better job?
And where were they before the 'pre-emptive defence'?jimmy3000 said:... Instead of the one off nutters of 9/11 in Iraq it is like an endless conveyor belt of brainwashed lunatics ready to kill any number of people.
Yuwipi Woman said:My friend's gay, 13 yr old, three-legged poodle could do a better job.
What are you? BNP?
DexterTCN said:And where were they before the 'pre-emptive defence'?
jimmy3000 said:May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits
jimmy3000 said:I know what you are saying but everyone has been staggered by the bloodthirsty nature of it. The driving of truck bombs into crowed markets, the bombings of religios festivals.
Al qaieda was operating before the war The American embasey in Nigeria and 9/11 which was before the war.
888 said:I totally disagree, although I've never been to Oklahoma city or Bulgaria... but that sounds like the usual hyperbole you come out with.
That's just bollocks, though, isn't it?phildwyer said:I'll go further than that: there is more difference between E.100th St and E.90th St in *Manhattan* than there is between Britain and Bulgaria.
FridgeMagnet said:That's just bollocks, though, isn't it?
Shippou-Chan said:don't you know you need three translators and a beureu de change if you want to go jogging in the morning
No, it is just bollocks. There is no possible way that you can compare the difference between two streets with the difference between two countries. It simply does not make sense; streets are not countries, and yes, I'm well aware of the surprising differences that can exist between adjoining areas in some US cities, but there is always some level that is not shared between London and Bulgaria, where there are centuries of divergent development, no shared language, barely any contact whatsoever that is not based on media that are shared much more closely between streets in one city, and so on. And a few hundred people are not equivalent to sixty million.phildwyer said:Not at all. On E.100th St you will find the poorest people in the Western world. Life expectancy and infant mortality rates are similar to those in sub-Saharan Africa. The people are black and Latino, and the neighborhood has a very distinctive and unique culture. A culture which is dramatically different from that on E.90th St, where you will find the richest people in the Western world, with their own unique culture, who are almost all white. Ten blocks is half a mile. But culturally, economically, and even linguistically, the difference between these two blocks is indeed greater than that between Britain and Bulgaria. *Much* greater.
Shippou-Chan said:what all of them?
and all british will go to bulgaria?
you may not actully be talking out of your arse but that probably because even your anus doesn't belive you
FridgeMagnet said:No, it is just bollocks. There is no possible way that you can compare the difference between two streets with the difference between two countries. It simply does not make sense; streets are not countries, and yes, I'm well aware of the surprising differences that can exist between adjoining areas in some US cities, but there is always some level that is not shared between London and Bulgaria, where there are centuries of divergent development, no shared language, barely any contact whatsoever that is not based on media.... <snip>
revol68 said:to be honest i thinkm I know what you mean by it but I myself don't think there is such a culture that isn't industrialised, the phrase you use would imply that some forms of culture are purer than others, a very outdated outlook.
And my criticisms of the book weren't that it slagged off the american people, my criticisms of it are that it's a just a fucking shopping list of things that the US has done. Groundbreaking facts like the US record of militarist intervention and how's it multi national companies are homogenising the world, the usual old wiberal claptrap.
Since your so upset by my Burchill analogy lets try another one, it's as if Carrie Bradshaw (the one from Sex and the City with the shite column) was subbing for Robert Fisk (hows that for bathing in postmodern references)
nino_savatte said:I am not implying that there is such a thing as "pure culture", all I am saying is that cultural products (like it or not they are products), like those produced by Hollywood are not produced in some sort of ideological vacuum as you appear to suggest. I'm sorry if you don't like that but tough shit.
Your ignorance of culture is astounding. Your last paragraph only makes you look like a fool. Why should I be upset with your crass analogies? You're just another right wing shit who thinks that anyone who is critical of the US is either "anti-American" or a "wiberal". I'm only surprised you haven' resorted to calling me "anti-American".
Weak, foolish and pathetic.