Why are so many people on the left so bitter?
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Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
lol - yeah, I knew what you were referring to. The allegations of "severe bruising" were almost entirely fabricated.
As far as I know, the kid had 'infiltrated' us as a mole before recently switching alegiance in public. Not that I think Martin's response was anything to defend, but it was abit smarmy arsed of him to turn up at Marxism and not expect some trouble.
As far as I know, the kid had 'infiltrated' us as a mole before recently switching alegiance in public. Not that I think Martin's response was anything to defend, but it was abit smarmy arsed of him to turn up at Marxism and not expect some trouble.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
<i>"As far as I know, the kid had 'infiltrated' us as a mole before recently switching alegiance in public."</i>
First time I've read of that allegation. Any links which might provide proof, or is it just hearsay?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
There's not enough violence within the left in my opinion. It's almost like a parlour game.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
No, that's just what I heard.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Fucking hell. You getting more CLass War in your old age Butch. Are you going to take up boxing or martial arts, or better still turn up to a political event sometime?
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I seem to remember that was more or less what the CPGB leaflet said at the time
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
I just read the CPGB leaflet again, and I can't see any admission on their part that this bloke was an infiltrator.
Sorry, I remain a bit skeptical about this accusation. If you'd said that he'd been an SWP member who then switched his political allegiances to the CPGB during the course of his membership of the SWP then OK, but you're suggesting something much more deceitful.
cheers
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He got happily used by the CPGB. That's all. They get their shock SWP uses violence story and the swp look like hardcore revoutionists to their kiddy members.
The Black Hand
Unclean
Bit boring for me letty I'm afraid. We all miss you on these forums, you're the only bright spark amongst a lot of dross. You were my only real opposition
i second that
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
I have no idea if this lad was "an infiltrator" or was an SWP member won over to the CPGB/Weekly Worker. I have never heard the infiltrator accusation used against him before, which makes me somewhat dubious about it at this remove.
However it isn't impossible. Such a thing is not too dishonest for the CPGB/WW. I know this because way back when I was just a young member of SWSS, and I went along to a couple of sessions of their Communist University, they asked me to become exactly such an infiltrator in the Socialist Party. Their denials that they do this have always seemed a bit laughable to me since.
audiotech
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Thats A Bit Harsh
It's an attempt at irony.
dennisr
the acceptable face
he's one of those 'red fascists' innit
I am on the left politically. I am not bitter but that could be because I have just finished a counselling course. Any lefties need counselling pm me.
Of course anyone on the left is not bitter - it is just at this moment, it is a politically difficult time and the big left vision has not materialised. The right may be bitter that they have not privatised everything but new Labour are making a good go. NHS next?
My advice is chill out - look at the long game.
The struggle as ever continues.
Of course anyone on the left is not bitter - it is just at this moment, it is a politically difficult time and the big left vision has not materialised. The right may be bitter that they have not privatised everything but new Labour are making a good go. NHS next?
My advice is chill out - look at the long game.
The struggle as ever continues.
Nigel
For A Degenerates' Workers State
I think that if you have been on the 'left' for any period of time, especially in this recent epoch (post Thatcher) you're either bitter or philosophical.
I personally would not call myself left wing, because of the connotations that it carries
audiotech
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From the US this is inspiring.
ILWU Shuts Down West Coast Ports On May Day 2008-No Peace No Work.
Check out the ILWU Drill Team.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7971114554624864182
"Are You Ready to Fight - Damn Right!" is the slogan. All those moaning gits note.
ILWU Shuts Down West Coast Ports On May Day 2008-No Peace No Work.
Check out the ILWU Drill Team.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7971114554624864182
"Are You Ready to Fight - Damn Right!" is the slogan. All those moaning gits note.
nightbreed
Im Bored
I wonder why the left are so bitter
"We want to reach out a hand of unity to all on the left who want to establish a broader, unified alternative to New Labour.
There have been several false starts and, no doubt, this colours the thinking of leading figures on the left in the labour movement. The experience of the Socialist Labour Party, the Socialist Alliance, the Scottish Socialist Party and, latterly, the split in Respect would make the most optimistic exponent of left unity reach for the nearest barge pole."
Nick wrack in Respect Paper this month.
makes you want to shit with happiness!!!
"We want to reach out a hand of unity to all on the left who want to establish a broader, unified alternative to New Labour.
There have been several false starts and, no doubt, this colours the thinking of leading figures on the left in the labour movement. The experience of the Socialist Labour Party, the Socialist Alliance, the Scottish Socialist Party and, latterly, the split in Respect would make the most optimistic exponent of left unity reach for the nearest barge pole."
Nick wrack in Respect Paper this month.
makes you want to shit with happiness!!!
so you never had julie waterson scream at you, and your young mates, keen to have a go at the NF in 1983, ' You leave this fucking car park you don't get back on the fucking coach and you are out of the fucking Party' ( or words to that affect )???
.. people quite righly ignored her .. so we went had a shout, and months later, following a Control Commision Enquiry (i SO do not want her and her kind in power!!!) the middle class students were suspended for a short time .. and the w/c bods were expelled never to be seen again ..
(even though i sold sw from 1977 to 1984 i never signed on the dotted line so there was fa they could do to me
)politically she may have been correct but her behaviour summed up that of leftism and leninism .. that there is ONLY one truth and those who disagree are disruptive and must be dealt with
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Fairly serious accusation? Care to respond to it?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fed, mk12 is taking the piss on the basis of what idiots on here have called durruti.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
I did sorta wonder given claims about him on threads about immigration.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Every claim made by an idiot. I'm more than happy to vouch for the lad to you. You and him aren't that far off politically. He sometime makes that hard to see though
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Every claim made by an idiot. I'm more than happy to vouch for the lad to you. You and him aren't that far off politically. He sometime makes that hard to see though
I take he he occasionally mentions the shock horror news that some working class punters/communities have concerns about immigration and social cohesion and the effect on jobs, and other such clearly genocidally racist meanderings?!
Except that I was a bit of a Strasserite
25 years ago lol.Similar threads
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