Why are Chelsea and Putney said to be in South London?

[Dan U]

victoria is SW1. thats central surely?

 

[magneze]

South Chelsea is what deluded foreign students call Brixton, isn't it?

That sign makes me smile every time I pass it.

 

[peppery]

The river is not the deciding factor of what is North and South London though.

Yes it is.

 

[java1200]

No, it's not.

 

[golightly]

The defining factor between North London and South london is whether it is North or South of the fucking river. End of.

 

[mango5]

Right! The River divides. Postcodes are for The Post. Chelsea is North - doesn't matter what the 'vibe' is or wants to be. Putney? You were drunk. It's South. All this Central London stuff is a red herring, for discussion elsewhere. As is the distinction between geographical distance and whether things are 'near' or not.
Happy to help

 

[java1200]

The defining factor between North London and South london is whether it is North or South of the fucking river. End of.

Bollocks.

 

[java1200]

No dearie, I'm taking the piss.

So was I; we're funny people, aren't we?

 

[tim]

Eh? Since when has Millwall been North of the river?

The place always, the football team not for some years.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

the football team not for some years.

And currently, they're going south at a rate of knots.

 

[T & P]

Fulham (firmly north of the river) is not more North London than Artantica is. It's not even Central London. Fulham is most definitely South London- or South West London at best.

The only difference the river makes to London geography is the number of cabs to be found after dark.

 

[tim]

Fulham (firmly north of the river) is not more North London than Artantica is. It's not even Central London. Fulham is most definitely South London- or South West London at best.

The only difference the river makes to London geography is the number of cabs to be found after dark.

No tube network either

 

[ViolentPanda]

So was I; we're funny people, aren't we?

Well yes, but where I'm funny as in "humourous", you're funny as in "peculiar".

 

[zenie]

Fulham (firmly north of the river) is not more North London than Artantica is. It's not even Central London. Fulham is most definitely South London- or South West London at best.

The only difference the river makes to London geography is the number of cabs to be found after dark.

Agreed how on earth people can say 'North London' and Fulham in the same breath is beyond me.

 

[Barney Bee]

Not all of London is North or South - there's East and West too. Fulham (for example) is West London not South or North.
However, if somewhere is North of the river it can never correctly be refered to as South London - and vice versa.

 

[Orang Utan]

what, even though at points the river runs more south to north than west to east, and thus divides west and east not north and south. etc?

yes

 

[Orang Utan]

Fulham is in West London - is it fuck in South

 

[java1200]

It's south-west.

 

[Orang Utan]

Tisn't - it's North of the River, so it isn't south

 

[peppery]

Fulham = WEST LONDON ,not south. To get to south London you cross a bridge. I have never heard anyone refer to any part of London North of the river as South London, it isn't.

 

[hippogriff]

Postcodes are decided by whether they are N/W/E/S of Mount Pleasant sorting office. The codes were developed in WW2 to help women + others learn the streets while they were covering for conscripted male posties. (iirc).

Oh no they weren't

London Postal Districts were intoduced by Rowland Hill in 1857/58 and originally comprised EC, WC, NW, N, NE, E, SE, S, SW & W. In 1866, after a survey by Trollope, NE was merged with N and in 1868 S was abolished and divided between SW & SE. The reason for the introduction was to avoid problems with vague addresses caused by streets in different parts of London which shared the same name.

Between the 1860's and 1930's postal districts were introduced in other major cities.

Postcodes were trialled in Norwich starting in 1959, and the present system was introduced in 1966, starting in Croydon and finishing with the re-coding of Norwich in 1974.

 

[JWH]

oh, well in that case, I'm totally wrong! I can't remember where I picked that up from - probably either here or the Guardian.

 

[T & P]

Fulham = WEST LONDON ,not south. To get to south London you cross a bridge. I have never heard anyone refer to any part of London North of the river as South London, it isn't.

So Westminster is North London then? Or East London perhaps?

 

[peppery]

So Westminster is North London then? Or East London perhaps?

Its central London, don't you know anything? How long have you lived here?

 

[Orang Utan]

So Westminster is North London then? Or East London perhaps?

It's quite simple - South London is south of the river, and East, West and North London are North of the river.

 

[Maggot]

Fulham (firmly north of the river) is not more North London than Artantica is.

Where's Artantica?

 

[java1200]

I have never heard anyone refer to any part of London North of the river as South London, it isn't.

That's clearly bollocks. Lots of people call Chelsea and Fulham south west London.

 

[peppery]

That's clearly bollocks. Lots of people call Chelsea and Fulham south west London.

No one I've ever met in my life has ever called Chelsea or Fulham SW London, who are these people, are they out of towners? Are they going by post codes?

 

[java1200]

Tisn't - it's North of the River, so it isn't south

Definitely south-west.

Looks like we'll have to agree to differ.

 

[Orang Utan]

That's clearly bollocks. Lots of people call Chelsea and Fulham south west London.

Yes, but they're wrong