Why are both matches played at the same time now?

[mrkikiet]

careful, he'll put you on ignore.

 

[Phenotypic Dai]

Heh-he.

It didn't stop Sweden and Denmark doing Italy like a kipper at the last Euros though?

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Well, it did, for those of us who watched the match. Though I admit the last few minutes were less than wholly competitive.

And anyway - wasn't the result of the other game irrelevant, insofar as Sweden and Demark would both have qualified with a draw regardless of what happened elsewhere? So you could have played them at different times anyway.

 

[JTG]

Other examples of such nonsense include Norwich City's relegation from the First Division in 1985 - their season was long finished by the time Coventry beat a Luton side who'd been dragged back from their summer holidays to play the game and Everton, already crowned champions who put out a virtual youth team against them.

I think Lincoln's relegation on the last day of the 1986/87 season also saw games being played when other teams had already finished their programme of fixtures.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I think Lincoln's relegation on the last day of the 1986/87 season also saw games being played when other teams had already finished their programme of fixtures.

I don't think so, except insofar as Tranmere (who had to win to stay up, and did) played their last game on the Friday night.

The Norwich/Coventry business was of course a scandal.

 

[JTG]

Fair enough, I was only going from vague memory

Perhaps I'm confused by the whole police dog business at Torquay causing a significant delay on the day

 

[Phenotypic Dai]

Well, it did, for those of us who watched the match. Though I admit the last few minutes were less than wholly competitive.

And anyway - wasn't the result of the other game irrelevant, insofar as Sweden and Demark would both have qualified with a draw regardless of what happened elsewhere? So you could have played them at different times anyway.

It needed to be 2-2. It ended 2-2.

You're right about the kick off time not mattering.

It was all the more hilarious as the Italians were still tin foiling about being stitched in the 2002 world cup.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Fair enough, I was only going from vague memory

Perhaps I'm confused by the whole police dog business at Torquay causing a significant delay on the day

Yeah, I can certainly recall that one game finished late because I remember the game at the Manor had finished quite some time before and I was still following events on the radio outside the ground.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

It needed to be 2-2. It ended 2-2.

You did watch the game? Could have finished any score.

 

[JTG]

Sweden and Denmark were going at each other hammer and tongs until the last couple of minutes in that one. There's no way there was any collusion.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

You can imagine how it must have looked to the Italians though, seeing as they didn't see the game (they'd have been watching theirs) and would however have seen footage of the banners urging 2-2, the playing-out-of-time at the end and so on.

 

[JTG]

aye. especially with the Italian inclination to see conspiracy everywhere

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Well, highly unlikely it would have been any different had it been England on the receiving end.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

It's shit, why are they both played at 7:45pm now, and not one at 5pm and one at 7:45pm?

It might be a stupid question, but I can't seem to think of a good reason.

I want to watch both, not have to choose.

The final group games of tournaments have always been like this. Seems a strange thing to suddenly bitch about.

It actually came about when Germany and Austria, in the final group game at World Cup 1982, went into their game with Algeria having alread played their final game, and knowing that if Germany (I think) won 1-0, then both they and Austria would go through. I believe that if the game had finished any other way, Algeria would have gone through instead of Austria. Astoundingly, the Germans won 1-0 and the Algerians complained bitterly. Ever since then the group games have been simmultaneous for the last fixture.

 

[ChrisFilter]

The final group games of tournaments have always been like this. Seems a strange thing to suddenly bitch about.

It actually came about when Germany and Austria, in the final group game at World Cup 1982, went into their game with Algeria having alread played their final game, and knowing that if Germany (I think) won 1-0, then both they and Austria would go through. I believe that if the game had finished any other way, Algeria would have gone through instead of Austria. Astoundingly, the Germans won 1-0 and the Algerians complained bitterly. Ever since then the group games have been simmultaneous for the last fixture.

You didn't read the thread, did you?