Who's using Ubuntu?
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stdPikachu
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jæd said:Well... I'm always surprised at how easy it is for people to understand the concept of viruses, "bad" programs and Windows to randomly stop working, but typing one or two commands into a box seems to be rocket science...
Agree on this one. TBH, when I'm doing support at work I often get my users to drop to command line because there's naff all room for interpretation (I've had to ask people to actually read out the error message eight times before they actually read it and tell me what it says) and users claiming they can't find the XYZ button.
GUI's and CLI's both have their uses. Granted, most normal users should have naff-all use for using the CLI other than for debugging purposes, but power users love it, generally cos it does exactly what you tell it to and there's no need to futz around with stupid "are you sure?" boxes and all the rest of that folderol.
Crispy said:
You still didn't fix the problem
Stig
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rich! said:
Right. I type "sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart" in the terminal, whenever I or a passing hippie might accidentally hibernate it.
I'm trying to read this, from stdPikachu's link: (I has a T41)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/80893
but haven't had a chance to get very far yet, I'm supposed to be at work, for one, and I only understand half of it anyway.
stdPikachu
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Stig said:
Don't try too hard to read the bug reports, most of the verbiage is just debugging information to try and find out where the problem is. The rest is mostly "me too!" postage
I don't use Ubuntu, but a cursory look through the bug report shows that;
It's a confirmed bug with the ubuntu kernel (that's the package that includes your audio drivers) that was passed down from the "official" Linux kernel
The fix hasn't been globally released yet (I figure the report status would be changed to "resolved" by that point)
There are packages you can install manually to solve it (hopefully, they seem to be very much YMMV at the moment)
If you're not wanting to get too involved installing packages outside of synaptic, then I'd generally say you should wait until the bug is closed and then it'll be incorporated in a standard ubuntu update and thus automagically fixed with an upgrade. Restarting ALSA after you resume is just a workaround (as it unloads and then reloads the sound drivers which usually gets them working) for the time being, as you surmised
Suspend and hibernate are the biggest bugbears with Linux at the moment, due almost entirely to ACPI (that's the hardware spec that governs all this power management gubbins) being a standard that no hardware manufacturer seems to be able to follow properly; I had a problem on my HP nx7300 where ACPI would bugger up (resulting in a 1 minute POST) if the keyboard module wasn't unloaded on shutdown. These issues sometimes get fixed with BIOS updates, but usually it's left to the device drivers to work around these bugs themselves.
OK, thread derail over
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chio said:
If you don't like Ubuntu's colour scheme there's Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu but a different colour (green I believe) and also adds some codecs for multimedia use;
http://linuxmint.com
SimonFiction
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I'm yet to try any of them but I think you can find different themes from gnome-look.
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Crispy said:
Really! Is that problamatic. I thought it it would be a case of install and let it run, especially as she will only be using it for surfing the net.
A way to go yet on open source os'. It's everyday pc users, likes my mum, who they have got to convert if it is really to take off and challenge microsoft.
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