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Who will be the next Labour leader?

Who will replace Corbyn?


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Don Troooomp

Condescension and embedded self importance
It's becoming pretty obvious Corbyn is far from popular among the UK population and is very probably the single biggest reason Labour is doing so badly.
Assuming (not that big an assumption given the bloody terrible looking polls) the Tories take the election in a landslide, or at least a large majority, who will be the next leader when Corbyn is forced out?

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Don Troooomp

Condescension and embedded self importance
I like Kier, much of his appeal being his pro-EU stance (and voting record), positive opinions on gay rights and same sex marriage, and his general attitude to things. There are a couple of things I'm not too sure about, especially Trident, but I was impressed with his ability to say his piece on difficult and emotional subjects such as euthanasia.
He comes over well in front of a camera, is clearly a very bright bloke, and someone who could well make an excellent party leader - A man who could take Labour into a future election and win.
 

kabbes

"A top 400 poster"
It's becoming pretty obvious Corbyn is ... very probably the single biggest reason Labour is doing so badly.
So obvious and yet you’ve been completely unable to provide any coherent evidence for it across multiple threads of being asked for this.

Here’s something obvious: Labour were unpopular under Brown, unpopular under Miliband and actually saw their vote rise in 2017 under Corbyn, who presented some policies that were — gasp — popular. Here’s something else obvious: Labour’s biggest problem right now is trying to hold together the Brexit-voting base in the north of the country with their remain-voting support in the south, which is an issue not remotely of Corbyn’s making. You’ve swallowed a narrative of it being all about leaders in the face of all historical evidence. And in repeatedly insisting on it, you’re making an absolute tit of yourself.
 

krtek a houby

Share knowledge, don't weaponize it
Purely anecdotal this, so don't jump down my throat (if you can resist the urge) but I could never find any JC fans back in London. Or those who would admit to it. Even Labour voters were reticent to voice support for him, in our conversations. Probably ex-Blairites. At least in my area. Various comments included "he's mad/a traitor/will destroy the country/is a communist/is a terrorist supporter" and all the other predictable shit. The venom came from all kinds of people, young, old, wc, toffs, black, white, Irish, Scottish etc etc.

Still, as pointed out above, it's something of a tradition for large amounts of vitriol to be poured on Labour leaders over the years. I don't envy the task ahead of Corbyn but if I still lived there, I would vote for him.
 

S☼I

ifyalikeitthenushouldaputadonkonit
You mean a member of his party to represent your area in parliament (unless by London you meant Islington North)
 

Dogsauce

Lord of the Dance Settee
Forty-odd percent in the last election, wasn’t it? Biggest labour vote in a generation after a succession of centrist gonks. Only the collapse of the Lib Dem vote due to their treachery and the political situation in Scotland kept them out of power, neither of which Corbyn had control of.
 

krtek a houby

Share knowledge, don't weaponize it
You mean a member of his party to represent your area in parliament (unless by London you meant Islington North)
I doubt even JC would be able to represent me here in Japan, but yay to international socialism anyway! And no, it wasn't Islington :D
 

SpineyNorman

it was already like that when I got here
So obvious and yet you’ve been completely unable to provide any coherent evidence for it across multiple threads of being asked for this.

Here’s something obvious: Labour were unpopular under Brown, unpopular under Miliband and actually saw their vote rise in 2017 under Corbyn, who presented some policies that were — gasp — popular. Here’s something else obvious: Labour’s biggest problem right now is trying to hold together the Brexit-voting base in the north of the country with their remain-voting support in the south, which is an issue not remotely of Corbyn’s making. You’ve swallowed a narrative of it being all about leaders in the face of all historical evidence. And in repeatedly insisting on it, you’re making an absolute tit of yourself.
I know why too. It's cos he's thick as pigshit.
 

danny la rouge

Raddled old poet
and is very probably the single biggest reason Labour is doing so badly
Rarely have I seen such obvious media-induced tabefaction of critical thinking.

There are two very long threads in which the actual shortcomings of Corbyn and Corbynism are debated. You could have learned from them both in the years they’ve been active. And yet here you are just regurgitating the pap you are fed by the media, from Foot’s cenotaph duffle coat to Corbyn being “hard left”. Christ, man, it’s embarrassing. It’s just stunning wilful lygophilia. No wonder we end up with a choice between variants of neoliberalism.

I’m not a Corbyn fan. I’m not a Labour fan. But your shallow, hypophrenic recitation of headline “common sense” gives me the boak.
 

Pickman's model

every man and every woman is a star
I like Kier, much of his appeal being his pro-EU stance (and voting record), positive opinions on gay rights and same sex marriage, and his general attitude to things. There are a couple of things I'm not too sure about, especially Trident, but I was impressed with his ability to say his piece on difficult and emotional subjects such as euthanasia.
He comes over well in front of a camera, is clearly a very bright bloke, and someone who could well make an excellent party leader - A man who could take Labour into a future election and win.
if you like keir starmer you might do him the courtesy of spelling his name correctly
 

TheHoodedClaw

acknowledging ur soup leg
Rarely have I seen such obvious media-induced tabefaction of critical thinking.

There are two very long threads in which the actual shortcomings of Corbyn and Corbynism are debated. You could have learned from them both in the years they’ve been active. And yet here you are just regurgitating the pap you are fed by the media, from Foot’s cenotaph duffle coat to Corbyn being “hard left”. Christ, man, it’s embarrassing. It’s just stunning wilful lygophilia. No wonder we end up with a choice between variants of neoliberalism.

I’m not a Corbyn fan. I’m not a Labour fan. But your shallow, hypophrenic recitation of headline “common sense” gives me the boak.
Liked for making me look up three words.
 

The39thStep

Well-Known Member
I like Kier, much of his appeal being his pro-EU stance (and voting record), positive opinions on gay rights and same sex marriage, and his general attitude to things. There are a couple of things I'm not too sure about, especially Trident, but I was impressed with his ability to say his piece on difficult and emotional subjects such as euthanasia.
He comes over well in front of a camera, is clearly a very bright bloke, and someone who could well make an excellent party leader - A man who could take Labour into a future election and win.
Sums up all thats wrong with some Labour supporters when there isnt a single mention of economic equality in their to go list about a candidate of their choice
 
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