Ash were not part of the Brit Pop scene, for about 25 different reasons.
and Pulp are only guilty by association
and Pulp are only guilty by association
Who were the best Britpop band?
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purves grundy
ambient clown remix
The poll has it very right - Pulp were genius
but they still weren't Britpop, really. save by timing and lazy stereotyping
purves grundy
ambient clown remix
Go on then, give us a definition of Britpop
madamv
Oi! With the poodle already
O it definately is Pulp.... seems from the poll most agree. Yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss. Oooh Jarve 
Suede would be my next choice of band out of the list then Supergrass next but I didnt really view them as brit pop. I dont know why....
*we wont use guns, we wont use bombs la la la o happy thread! thanks Hollis!*
Suede would be my next choice of band out of the list then Supergrass next but I didnt really view them as brit pop. I dont know why....
*we wont use guns, we wont use bombs la la la o happy thread! thanks Hollis!*
purves grundy said:
music that's very english, very influenced by 60s pop (The KInks in Blur's case, Beatles etc in Oasis').. Pulp had been going a decade longer, had entirely different influences, a different sound, it's just a whole different deal. they were around at the same time and they sang about being english, that's it
Firky said:
Welsh psychedelic band?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Firky said:No SFA?
my heart says pulp but my memories of blur say otherwise...... I want to say blur cos of the memories associated with the great escape are fanfirkingtastic
please don't lump the furries in with them bands
ta, and as dub said, something different altogether
Taxamo Welf
kebagels pls
Fuck me, pulp are winning
What a lovely surprise, i'm well chuffed. Considered Blur but then i thought Common People, Disco 2000, pencil skirt, Cocaine socialism and more...
ChrisFilter you F*&^#ing plum! Oasis!
'the sink is full of fishes, but she's got dirty dishes on the brey-e-ain'. How profound, beats Jarvis any day.
What IS jarvis doing these days? He must be old. I wonder if his kids go to private school
What a lovely surprise, i'm well chuffed. Considered Blur but then i thought Common People, Disco 2000, pencil skirt, Cocaine socialism and more...
ChrisFilter you F*&^#ing plum!
Oasis!'the sink is full of fishes, but she's got dirty dishes on the brey-e-ain'. How profound, beats Jarvis any day.
What IS jarvis doing these days? He must be old. I wonder if his kids go to private school
Taxamo Welf said:What IS jarvis doing these days? He must be old. I wonder if his kids go to private school
lives in Paris with a fashion designer (or journalist). still charming when interviewed but barely in touch with what made him great any more
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
From the fact that oasis have more votes than supergrass I've deduced that no-one on this thread has a fucking clue and Supergrass win by default !
pilchardman
Dances With Penguins
I still don't get it.Dubversion said:
Maybe I never will.
SFA They're all pretty annoying to be honest. I voted Oasis but probably meant Blur - I vaguely (very vaguely) knew both of them - Blur were probably easier to live with I think.
Oasis were kindof protected by this weird bubble of snobbery - which was probably nothing to do with them, just the people around them. Andy Ross - Blur's man on the inside at EMI/Food records is a genuinely nice bloke. Dave's a nice bloke as well. He's exactly the same now as he was when they were starting out.
Oasis were kindof protected by this weird bubble of snobbery - which was probably nothing to do with them, just the people around them. Andy Ross - Blur's man on the inside at EMI/Food records is a genuinely nice bloke. Dave's a nice bloke as well. He's exactly the same now as he was when they were starting out.
andy was a star. all the folks round oasis - including johnny, who was lovely before he worked with them and turned into a cunt the moment he did - seemed to be coke-addled twats.
Nick - you didn't for some reason know L*o F*nl*y did you?
Nick - you didn't for some reason know L*o F*nl*y did you?
clandestino
no llevar papel
pulp were britpop. just because they'd been going for a decade or so before that doesn't mean anything. they were a different sounding band back then. as i learnt to my cost when i bought that old pulp album off you dub - it's terrible!
britpop wasn't just about sixties pop revivalism. it simply wasn't that contrived. sleeper and shed seven weren't hugely focused on sixties pop, for example. sleeper had more new wave influences, as did elastica. britpop was more than just two bands that fed off the kinks and the beatles.
what i find interesting is that blur were at their worst during the peak of britpop. 'modern life is rubbish' was a great album and 'beetlebum' is a truly magnificent single - possibly the best thing blur have ever done. but 'park life' hasn't stood the test of time at all (bar the ballads obviously), and 'the great escape' was terrible at the time.
oasis, meanwhile, were at their best.
as for pulp, i'm still trying to work out why they split up right after releasing their best album.
britpop wasn't just about sixties pop revivalism. it simply wasn't that contrived. sleeper and shed seven weren't hugely focused on sixties pop, for example. sleeper had more new wave influences, as did elastica. britpop was more than just two bands that fed off the kinks and the beatles.
what i find interesting is that blur were at their worst during the peak of britpop. 'modern life is rubbish' was a great album and 'beetlebum' is a truly magnificent single - possibly the best thing blur have ever done. but 'park life' hasn't stood the test of time at all (bar the ballads obviously), and 'the great escape' was terrible at the time.
oasis, meanwhile, were at their best.
as for pulp, i'm still trying to work out why they split up right after releasing their best album.
i still disagree. pulp just weren't part of the scene in the same way, and half of the whole deal with Britpop was 'the scene'. they just seemed very different from it all and the time, and since.
clandestino
no llevar papel
Dubversion said:
i knew him. i used to work for him when i was at music week.
a good guy
ianw said:
a good mate too
forgot you worked there.
clandestino
no llevar papel
Dubversion said:
they were part of the same scene, very much so. pr done by same agency that practically ran britpop - savage and best. i remember going to pulp shows and parties that felt very much part of the britpop scene. it was all certainly very different to when we put them on at smashed.
do you like blur or oasis?
ianw said:
just because john and phil ran tings doesn't prove.. erm.. well, not much
i loathe oasis with every fibre of my body and think that when they're on form - which is about 60% of the time - Blur are one of the finest bands this country ever produced,
clandestino
no llevar papel
well, we'll have to agree to disagree.
labels mean nothing anyway, man. it's either good music or...
*crack of gunshot*
labels mean nothing anyway, man. it's either good music or...
*crack of gunshot*
clandestino
no llevar papel
so onto spiltting hairs then...
is there a blur single to better 'beetlebum'? i can't think of one.
is there a blur single to better 'beetlebum'? i can't think of one.
Dubversion said:
Don't think so - it was a while ago though, and the booze/drugs etc were just getting more and more severe. Had to escape to Brighton in the end - which given the extremely untidy self-destruction of my last band, was probably a good thing.
Something I find particularly tragic/hilarious though is that there's now actually shoe-gazer revival nights - there's one coming up in Oxford next week - with the real, actual Mark from Ride playing at it.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/rockandrollsoul/
Am I going? You bet I fucking am.
tangerinedream
Density of Sound
For me Pulp, Mr Cocker is one of the outstanding song writers of the last 15 years. They are of course far more than Brit Pop - it representing a time when the conditions were right for them to recieve mainstream aclaim, a mere snippit of their career.
Next best thing probably Supergrass.
Pulp are the only thing on that list I listen to now.
Next best thing probably Supergrass.
Pulp are the only thing on that list I listen to now.
ianw said:
much as i love that song, i reckon i'd put To The End, The Universal and Tender (so sue me
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