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Who was the best old school bluesman?

Who is your favourite old school bluesman?

  • John Lee Hooker

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Muddy Waters

    Votes: 10 20.0%
  • Robert Johnson

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • Howlin' Wolf

    Votes: 8 16.0%
  • Lightning Hopkins

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Leadbelly

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Big bill Broonzy

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Sonny Boy Williamson

    Votes: 2 4.0%
  • Elmore James

    Votes: 2 4.0%
  • James Blunt

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    50
Magic Sam said:
Yeah, I took that as meaning Alec Rice Miller rather than John Lee Williamson,
Williamson was killed in 1947 I think, all his stuff was on Bluebird, some with Big Joe williams.
REad the rest o fthe thread dammit!

Sorry, welcome.
 
My girlfriend told me about BB Kings last tour, but when I went to the site, there was only stuff about US dates on there.

Do you know where to check?
 
MarkMark said:
booked :cool:

strange there's (still) no mention on his site about it though :confused:

I hope I havent just booked BB King, the lesser known existentialist philosopher and poet

Well there are two you know! :D
 
Magic Sam said:

the picture looks modern... when is this guy from? It doesn't really count if he just some new guy who's taken his name. Otherwise you could say there's 2 "Baby Huey and the Babysitters", cos there's some evil band going around now with that name (check Google!), when in fact there's obviously only 1 (the great soul singer and group)
 
ICB said:
:mad:
Did you know the first one did a load of good stuff with Big Joe Williams?
:D
There's two of them too! the sit-down bloke with a guitar and the stand-up jazzy geezer who sang with the Count Basie band..
 
rutabowa said:
the picture looks modern... when is this guy from? It doesn't really count if he just some new guy who's taken his name. Otherwise you could say there's 2 "Baby Huey and the Babysitters", cos there's some evil band going around now with that name (check Google!), when in fact there's obviously only 1 (the great soul singer and group)

1930's to early 1960's

Blind Arthur Blake last recorded in 1927 I think.
 
Magic Sam said:
No you are thinking about Big Joe Turner
No I ain't.. look.

He was the one who sang "Every Day I Have The Blues". so maybe the Basie Band one wasn't Big...

There's another Big Joe Turner too .. a British-based (I think) one.. and his Memphis Blues Caravan.
 
rutabowa said:
sorry just noticed the poll... can't vote as in my opinion only Robert Johnson could be classed as old-school bluesman, and even him not really. A lot of them on the poll use electric guitars! which killed blues, turning it into cabaret music. Leadbelly, although good, was a bit of a latecomer, he never made records before he was discovered by alan lomax... and no way was he the first to use a 12 string either, Blind Willie McTell for one was recording in the 1920s with one.
Didn't i say he was one of the first? not the first. and anyway it's debatable. And, although the lomaxs' done great work in giving these guys exposure. huddy ledbetter was a legend in his own way before the lomaxs' recorded him.....thats why he was put forward by the prison warden they asked about prisoners with a musical bent.

his infuence was massive, pop bands were still recording his songs in the 1970's. And massive stars like van Morrison, chuck berry,Jerry lee lewis had hits with goodnight irene...
Oh and what about Nirvana and led zepelin-where did you sleep lastnight and gallows poll.
IMO his influance means he was the big daddy of all blues men. Even if wasn't the first to play the 12 string, he was certainly the best.
 
No Mississippi John Hurt? Disgraceful... Woody Guthrie seems to be missing too :confused: If i didn't know better I'd almost think that urbanites were prejudiced against a good bit of folky blues...
 
I think we need some pianists in there...

Jimmy Yancey
Champion Jack Dupree
Otis Spann
Clarence "Pine Top" Perkins
Memphis Slim

and the boogie-woogie specialists

Clarence "Pine Top" Smith
Rufus Perryman ("Speckled Red")
Meade "Lux" Lewis
Albert Ammons
Pete Johnson

I'll also include Henry Gray (pianist for Howling Wolf) as he was kind enough to invite me to duet with him at the 100 club :cool:

Memphis Slim was the first I heard, when I was eight or so on a compilation album called 'Blues for your pocket'. His was the first track, called 'boogie-woogie piano styles'. I kept demanding to have it played. Later, my folks got divorced and the record went with my dad. I got to hear it again about twenty years later...

After it was a Champion Jack Dupree track, called 'strollin' and when I heard it I had to go to the piano and work out the main riff. I got it, and I've been playing blues piano ever since - although it was a while before I was any good; luckily I didn't know that at the time. :)
 
bertifrew said:
Didn't i say he was one of the first? not the first. and anyway it's debatable. And, although the lomaxs' done great work in giving these guys exposure. huddy ledbetter was a legend in his own way before the lomaxs' recorded him.....thats why he was put forward by the prison warden they asked about prisoners with a musical bent.

his infuence was massive, pop bands were still recording his songs in the 1970's. And massive stars like van Morrison, chuck berry,Jerry lee lewis had hits with goodnight irene...
Oh and what about Nirvana and led zepelin-where did you sleep lastnight and gallows poll.
IMO his influance means he was the big daddy of all blues men. Even if wasn't the first to play the 12 string, he was certainly the best.
well we might have to disagree! He didn't record anything before Alan Lomax discovered him, he was in prison too much, so maybe he was a legend in his prison but not far beyond. There were many guitarists better than him, 12 string and otherwise... the reason he's such a big influence is because he was discovered by a folklorist and introduced to a white audience, which was what he played for. More talented guys didn't get as much exposure cos their records were released as "race records".
 
rutabowa said:
well we might have to disagree! He didn't record anything before Alan Lomax discovered him, he was in prison too much, so maybe he was a legend in his prison but not far beyond. There were many guitarists better than him, 12 string and otherwise... the reason he's such a big influence is because he was discovered by a folklorist and introduced to a white audience, which was what he played for. More talented guys didn't get as much exposure cos their records were released as "race records".

his music lives on, and is more origional than some of the others that stuck to the old standards, or the same sound of there local country or delta blues. listen to some of his stuff that he done in the 50's, listen when he plays the same song 3 times in 3 different styles. and i say again his music lives on, because it's so adaptable. are the others(blind willie, bill broozney ect)better because they got recorded first? imo no, when they were recorded means nothing, what they recorded means everything.

ledbelly= The real king of the blues!!!
 
Well, Leadbelly is great you're right, i have no argument there!
the king of them all is Rev Gary Davis though... all styles from blues to gospel to ragtime, all instantly recognisable as him, and an impossibly great but effortless guitarist... he's who i heard and loved first anyway, so he must be the best
 
rutabowa said:
Well, Leadbelly is great you're right, i have no argument there!
the king of them all is Rev Gary Davis though... all styles from blues to gospel to ragtime, all instantly recognisable as him, and an impossibly great but effortless guitarist... he's who i heard and loved first anyway, so he must be the best


The first i heard (and knew who it was) was John Lee Hooker. By no means the best tho', i do however bow to his greatness. He wrote hundreds of songs, and he was illiterate(sp?)!

what about some of the newer breed of blues men?
Taj Mahal in particular, i love him.
 
Seeing as this has turned to just mentioning artists you like how about
Walter Horton, and Noah Lewis both harpsmen but the latter perfected playing two at a time one through his mouth the other through his nostrils.
 
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