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Who was the best old school bluesman?

Who is your favourite old school bluesman?

  • John Lee Hooker

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Muddy Waters

    Votes: 10 20.0%
  • Robert Johnson

    Votes: 15 30.0%
  • Howlin' Wolf

    Votes: 8 16.0%
  • Lightning Hopkins

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Leadbelly

    Votes: 6 12.0%
  • Big bill Broonzy

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Sonny Boy Williamson

    Votes: 2 4.0%
  • Elmore James

    Votes: 2 4.0%
  • James Blunt

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    50
ICB said:
Word.

A particular favourite of mine is Sonny Boy Williamson and Big Joe Williams compilation "Blues from the Fields to the Town"

Great tribute by John Mayall as well "I heard Sonny Boy Blow"
(now he's a mean old man, but I love him so)

:cool:
remember there's 2 Sonny Boy Williamsons tho when looking for his stuff.. I forget how you tell them apart, one's early and ones later though.
 
rutabowa said:
remember there's 2 Sonny Boy Williamsons tho when looking for his stuff.. I forget how you tell them apart, one's early and ones later though.

I meant John Lee (sonny boy) williamson, but the other was good too

Were they related btw?
 
no, i'm pretty sure not, I think the 2nd one just ripped off his name. people who knew the 1st one called him the "real" sonny boy williamson anwya (all my info is from half remembered interviews in blues books an guitar magazines by the way so it's not gospel!)
 
Big Bill Broonzy is the man.

no Big Bill, no Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf etc. Black, Brown and White & Stuff they Call Money are superb.

He backed Memphis Minnie as well, btw.
 
ps is John Lee the later one? I think I only heard him, he has an electric band and a kind of bassy harmonica, and a voice a bit like Howlin Wolf, is taht him?
 
John Lee Williamson was SBW the 1st, the first big blues harp man, I thoughs SBW the 2nd was his son (as he played a lot with the later guys).
 
MarkMark said:
John Lee Williamson was SBW the 1st, the first big blues harp man, I thoughs SBW the 2nd was his son (as he played a lot with the later guys).
I think they only started recording 4 years apart. and the 2nd one was called "Rice" Miller. I think he just took the name
 
Sonny Boys 1 + 2

Gorblimey, we gotta sort this out..

The original Sonny Boy Williamson (SBW1) was a Chicago bluesman in the 40s or thereabouts.. he was John Lee Williamson. He played a very countryfied style harp but in a city context (i.e. in bands), and was a major influence on Little Walter, who took John Lee's style and more or less invented electric harp (i.e. thru a handheld cupped mic and amp).

Then Alec Rice Miller showed up in.. er.. Arkansas I think, in the 50s. He nicked the name and became Sonny Boy Williamson 2. Oddly, he was much older than SBW1. They were not related.

But SBW1 was murdered so SBW2 outlived him. SBW2 is by far the better known - the one who wore a bowler hat, had hardly any teeth, carried an umbrella and a briefcase full of harps and a bottle of whisky, toured here with the Yardbirds and Animals and appeared on British telly (I have a VHS copy of a wonderful B&W Granada show from the 60s my wife purloined for me, with SBW2 - doing his trick of playing the harp stuck endways in his mouth - plus Memphis Slim, Muddy, Matt Guitar Murphy, Willie Dixon et al...).
Mayall's "Sonny Boy Blow" would've been about SBW2 (I'm pretty certain). Mayall would never have had the opportunity to see SBW1 live...

Great SBW2 quote. When he was playing over here with Eric et al (both Erics!) he famously said: "Those white English boys wanna play the blues so bad. And man, do they play the blues so bad.."
 
MarkMark said:
free!

and of course you get a good seat and free entry for the Saturday night band too. I tend to do this once a month or so anyway, but judging some of the interest here we could make it an urban night out sometime

maybe new year, when its otherwise quiet & all the xmas stuff is over and done with (??)

cool, I might go down this saturday.
An urban blues night sounds good too, although i think we would probably take over the entire place seeing as its not the largest bar in the world!
 
Only really Robert Johnson, Broonzy and Leadbelly are oldschool on that list, others are post war mainly (based on recorded output).IMO

You're takilng about Robert Johnson, Patton, Son House, Tommy Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Skip James, Furry Lewis, Blind Joe Reynolds, Blind Willie Johnson, Bukka White, Leroy Carr, Mississippi John Hurt, Ishmon Bracey, Blind Blake and Blind Willie McTell as your main oldschool bluesmen.
Loads more TBH.

Any of the first four will do for me.
 
Urban blooze night out??

This just in..

Top London bloozegroove band Juke and the Hazzards have just had their next gig rescheduled (i'd have asked u all down to last Tuesday's but this post didnt appear till Wednesday!)

Juke and the Hazzards @
The Tuesday Club
Chez Stelios
10 Paddington St
Marylebone
8:30-11:00 pm

this is off the Marylebone one-way system. nearest tube Baker St.
we're in the cellar bar which is where the ultragroovy Kashmir Klub used to be. It's a lovely 60s hippy bohemian space, all arches and eastern furnishings. Might be the last chance to see it too as the pub management are closing up (a week before Xmas!!) to refurbish, i.e. ruin it. Which is why our gig's been moved forward a week.

Top harmonica-driven (by yours truly) r'n'b. and that's proper r'n'b, not a load of fat-legged shop girls warbling away in imitation of Mariah Carey.

All we gotta do is find a dep guitarist as our regular's at the Jazz Cafe that night. ...

(edit.. it's Tues Dec 13 by the way.)
 
Magic Sam said:
Only really Robert Johnson, Broonzy and Leadbelly are oldschool on that list, others are post war mainly (based on recorded output).IMO
I don't think Leadbelly recorded anything till Alan Lomax (see earlier post on this thread)... he was more like a folk revival icon, rather than real old school. And Lightning Hopkins definitely was recording pre-war... i think.
 
MarkMark said:
^^ a fab read & lots of things for me to go and look for later

The list of titles there has loads more than I ever knew existed

:cool: it's that sort of thing that made me realise I would only ever be a very shit harp player :D

Magic Sam said:
Only really Robert Johnson, Broonzy and Leadbelly are oldschool on that list, others are post war mainly (based on recorded output).IMO

All of SBW1's recordings were made in the 30s and 40s.
 
MarkMark said:
Hello Sam & welcome

Thanks

Whilst we are talking about blues gigs and stuff I thought i'd mention that I am going to see B.B.King in April next year, his last UK tour apparantly, what with him being 80 now. :cool:

Might me some tickets left, tho' some are sold out already.
 
ICB All of SBW1's recordings were made in the 30s and 40s.[/QUOTE said:
Yeah, I took that as meaning Alec Rice Miller rather than John Lee Williamson,
Williamson was killed in 1947 I think, all his stuff was on Bluebird, some with Big Joe williams.
 
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