Termite Man
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shoddysolutions said:
Ramones released an album before the Damned released New Rose . And they were just faster to release something , they weren't the first to start playing !
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Ramones released an album before the Damned released New Rose . And they were just faster to release something , they weren't the first to start playing !
Hanfstaengl
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Arthur Brown is a mad punk
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Hans plays with Lotte
Lonnie Donegan!!
editor
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Seeing as there's no clear definition of who/what is punk or where/how it started that's as good as it's going to get.Dubversion said:
The UK scene was certainly part insired by some of the music coming out of NYC but what made it so good for me was the definite, unique British quality added by bands like the Pistols, Damned etc.
So the first 'punk' band depends very much on your personal definition of what punk is/was. The Ramones were great, but they didn't have the menace, the energy or the wild anarchic qualities that defined punk to me as a teenager.
MysteryGuest
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Termite Man
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editor said:
Ramones didn't have energy . I've heard everything now ! Next you'll be telling me the moon landings didn't happen
kained&able
Here for the football.
I reckon it all started with the stooges. Punk as fuck(sometimes) in the late 60's.
dave
dave
Termite Man
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kained&unable said:
Your options are Ramones or Sex Pistols though
editor said:
you're kidding, right?
ok, what about the new York Dolls then?
Pickman's model
sunset spires and twilight woods
i fear that this thread has long been divorced from a grown-up debate.editor said:
editor said:
but you're still talking about what affected you. how the hell is that a benchmark for who started punk? to an extent, as i've said, it's kind of futile and ultimately subjective but it's not SO subjective as to purely depend on your perspective with scant regard for the facts of the matter.
Termite Man
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editor said:
You say the Ramones didn't have energy , exactly what are you basing this on ? I've seen them live several times and they were full of energy and considering they were getting on a bit then I'd imagine they had even more energy in the 70's. Maybe if you hadn't made such a ridiculous claim I'd be able to take your argument a bit more seriously !
kained&able
Here for the football.
not my fault you canne do a decent poll. If you hade said who came first i would have voted ramones if you said who do i listen to more i would say sex pistols.Savage Henry said:Your options are Ramones or Sex Pistols though
However, you said who started punk and the fact the ramones are the better option just means the querstion was crap so neh
dave
Termite Man
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kained&unable said:not my fault you canne do a decent poll. If you hade said who came first i would have voted ramones if you said who do i listen to more i would say sex pistols.
However, you said who started punk and the fact the ramones are the better option just means the querstion was crap so neh
dave
I explained it in my first post it's a USA vs UK thing so I chose the main members of the relevant scenes !
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
In Bloom said:
thats not how I interpreted it though , maybe we could be given an explantion of what this special "punk energy" is to settle it !
editor
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I fucking LIVED punk when it happened. It changed my life. Still has.Dubversion said:
Seeing as it's entirely subjective, I fail to see why your retrospective take on events is of any more significance than mine. I know what punk meant in the UK when it happened, and it certainly wasn't about the NY Dolls.
As far as most people were concerned at the time, punk started with the Pistols.
Shit poll this, btw.
Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
editor said:
What did you mean ?
You said they didn't have " the menace, the energy or the wild anarchic qualities that defined punk to me as a teenager" what were they lacking in energy then ? From my experience seeing them they certainly had loads of energy so what were they lacking for you ?
and I notice it's a shit poll now that your choice is losing
Bloody punks. Always arguing!! 
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BadlyDrawnGirl
Piano Tuna
I notice you don't get the same levels of passion in debate about Siberian Nippleflute Gabba.William of Walworth said:Bloody punks. Always arguing!!
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Termite Man
zombie flesh eater
editor said:
Is that an FAQ busting personal insult there ? It's not self explanatory , maybe you would care to explain exactly what it means rather than using cryptic comments about lack of energy which in my opinion and experience is a load of bollocks anyway !
What is this mythicla punk energy your talking about ?
editor said:
why not take your own advice , if you want to have a grown up debate why not try to not insult people !
acid priest said:
You do about Glastonbury!!!
I'm always right about that though, so it doesn't matter ...
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