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Who Should Play Drums For Led Zeppelin

White Lotus said:
My fav Led Zep is Kashmir, does anyone know if there's a name for the meter that's in? :confused:
often wondered that - and your post prompted me to check:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashmir_(song)

I could never have put it into words, but the stuff about the drums and guitars being at war and with different time signatures was about the only bit of it i'd (kind of) figured out
 
Dubversion said:
ok, but he's a technical drummer. he's a bore. and he overplays.

So did Keith Moon, thats Pearts style.

Peart does play with feeling, I think he's got a mad childlike exhuberance which I love. I don't know if he's a bore. But what he does works in the band he's playing with. It wouldn't work in Zepplin though, Pearts not a 4/4 kinda guy. Same for Bruford. There good at what they do, but its not grooving in 4/4with real power and space.

Dave Grohl said in Guitarist magazine that 2112 made him pick up the sticks. But in England theres this denial that Rush had any influence on post 1990 US alternative Rock, which is quite the opposite if you read some interviews in the US media.

What about Jason Bonham? I think he plays like his dad, Michael Lee or Matt Sorum would be good, both groove and play with authority

Our drummer Matt is very Bonhamesque and also from The west midlands, apparently John Bonham went into his parents Chip shop in 1973 and they got his autograph. Wicked
 
Another shout for Michael Lee

Being the drummer for page and plant, I remember him as being pretty fucking close to Bonham as you can get.

From Wiki: "Like Led Zeppelin's drummer John Bonham, Lee uses large drum sizes, something he attributes to his height. His bass drum is 28" wide, and his snare drum is a brass 14"x14" shell. He also played as a drummer with Little Angels, The Cult, Echo & The Bunnymen and the reformed version of Thin Lizzy"
 
skyscraper101 said:
He also played as a drummer with Little Angels, The Cult, Echo & The Bunnymen and the reformed version of Thin Lizzy"

Is that supposed to be a recommendation???

:p :D
 
Neal Peart

Dubversion said:
ah fuck off. he's a shit drummer. he plays too much with no real feeling

:eek: :eek: :mad: :mad:

This is a piss-take, surely?

The guy plays in a power trio .... drummers in power trios always need to be able to fill in the gaps.

All I can say is that Peart's are the only drum solos I have ever wanted to listen to, which speaks volumes about his playing.

Having said that, I don't think he'd be right for Zeppelin as Bonham was all about sheer power and precision. My vote would definitely be for Dave Grohl. I hope that they don't go for Jason Bonham, since that would be far too obvious.
 
aylee said:
:eek: :eek: :mad: :mad:

This is a piss-take, surely?

The guy plays in a power trio .... drummers in power trios always need to be able to fill in the gaps.

so he can fill in gaps? so what? so can plasterers. He's a flashy, showy, overly busy drummer with no feel and no sensitivity. a blunderer
 
White Lotus said:
My fav Led Zep is Kashmir, does anyone know if there's a name for the meter that's in? :confused:

It's a polyrhythm, isn't it .... the strings are playing in 12/4 time (4 lots of 3 - count 'em) whereas the drums are playing in straight 4/4 (3 lots of 4).
 
Dubversion said:
so he can fill in gaps? so what? so can plasterers. He's a flashy, showy, overly busy drummer with no feel and no sensitivity. a blunderer

Plus, he should be disqualified anyway for those Rush drum solos.

Or just for Rush, come to think of it...

:D
 
Iam said:
Plus, he should be disqualified anyway for those Rush drum solos.

Or just for Rush, come to think of it...

:D

As Starfish has already said, Rush are far more influential on the heavy rock scene, both today and over the last two decades, than almost anyone is willing to admit.
 
aylee said:
As Starfish has already said, Rush are far more influential on the heavy rock scene, both today and over the last two decades, than almost anyone is willing to admit.


so what?

doesn't mean he's any good. i grew up listening to these bands, they were my childhood and early teens. I had a bunch of Rush albums but realised fairly soon that they were pompous, overblown shite. Flashy musicians full of technique but fuck all feeling.
everything, in a word, that's bad about rock music
 
aylee said:
It's a polyrhythm, isn't it .... the strings are playing in 12/4 time (4 lots of 3 - count 'em) whereas the drums are playing in straight 4/4 (3 lots of 4).
That's a new word for my - thanks for that, I'll look it up tonight.
 
Dubversion said:

Well, if a band's influential, that would tend to suggest to me that a lot of other musicians disagree with your assessment. And I'm not just talking about the rash of bands who are pale imitators of 70s prog either .... Acts as diverse as the Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, the Foo Fighters and the Mars Volta have all credited Rush as influences.

doesn't mean he's any good.

Maybe so, but I was responding to your more general complaints about Rush rather than your views on Peart's drumming.

i grew up listening to these bands, they were my childhood and early teens. I had a bunch of Rush albums but realised fairly soon that they were pompous, overblown shite. Flashy musicians full of technique but fuck all feeling. everything, in a word, that's bad about rock music

Pompous? Sometimes.

Overblown? Often.

Fuck all feeling? I disagree. I'm not a fanatic .... I have seven or eight of their albums but my fave Rush album is 1984's "Grace Under Pressure" .... some very atmospheric synth and guitar effects and a lot of light and shade.

Shite? Only rarely. I disagree that just because music is musicianly and the lyrics are wordy and deal with unorthodox topics, it falls to be categorised as shite.

Ah well, your mileage clearly differs. :)
 
aylee said:
Well, if a band's influential, that would tend to suggest to me that a lot of other musicians disagree with your assessment. And I'm not just talking about the rash of bands who are pale imitators of 70s prog either .... Acts as diverse as the Smashing Pumpkins, Metallica, the Foo Fighters and the Mars Volta have all credited Rush as influences.

well the first two are shite, the 3rd are a pop band and the latter were better when they were At The Drive In and now make shite :)

aylee said:
I disagree that just because music is musicianly and the lyrics are wordy and deal with unorthodox topics, it falls to be categorised as shite.

no, i'm happy with wordy lyrics, 'musicianly' music and unorthodox topics. But not when they're done by leaden stadium rock neo-con twazzocks
 
aylee said:
As Starfish has already said, Rush are far more influential on the heavy rock scene, both today and over the last two decades, than almost anyone is willing to admit.

Great. Well done to them.

Doesn't change my opinion of their music one iota, though.

Still utterly fucking dull.
 
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