Who invented Heavy Rock?

[Divisive Cotton]

I'd never heard the rumour about J Page playing on Kinks numbers. Makes sense though (kind of like Chris Spedding playing on Never Mind the Bollocks).

At the time Jimmy Page was a very young session musician - I don't think that the rumours have ever been confirmed one way or the other.

 

[Hollis]

I'd never heard the rumour about J Page playing on Kinks numbers. Makes sense though (kind of like Chris Spedding playing on Never Mind the Bollocks).

Read about this in "Hammer to the Gods". Allegedly the kinks fell out with him after it became known he was the session musician..

A mate saw the Kinks in about '83 and tells me Ray Davies saw it fit to deny the story.

 

[changingman]

Read about this in "Hammer to the Gods". Allegedly the kinks fell out with him after it became known he was the session musician..

I've heard that just about everything in Hammer of the Gods was made up. Must read it one day though..

Pagey did play on Tom Jones' It's Not Unusual..

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I've heard that just about everything in Hammer of the Gods was made up. Must read it one day though..

Pagey did play on Tom Jones' It's Not Unusual..

Well... I wouldn't go that far... but how much of the of detail you believe in the book is up to the individual. Certainly the band play down its protrayed excess... although they do quite freely admit that things were pretty wild back then

 

[Dr. Furface]

MC5, iiirc Kick Out the Jams was recorded in 1966

Beat me to it. MC5. Muthaf***ers!

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Beat me to it. MC5. Muthaf***ers!

I wouldn't call that heavy rock though... but it is heavy! Quite an oddity from that time.

 

[E. Coli]

..... Steppenwolf (who also first used the term in a song)

almost right. The song says 'Heavy Metal' not Heavy Rock because that wouldn't make sense.

 

[changingman]

Hmm... for me though those Yank bands were never truly heavy (I saw MC5 more as early punk). Heavy rock was a peculiarly British phenomenon, forged in the molten metal crucible of the industrial revolution etc etc.

I saw the Sabs once before they were the Sabs. they were called Earth. Christ were they dull.

For me, the band that took heavy to exquisite, sublime heights were Free. Heavy Load indeed. Because, like Zep, they also had a lightness of touch to contrast with what Dave Hepworth once referred to as "the mighty heft of (rhythm section) Andy Fraser and Simon Kirke" .. some gorgeous ballads.

 

[milesy]

link wray

 

[Divisive Cotton]

MC5 were more garage really.... over comes the blues to the UK.... back goes the Rolling Stones to the US... back comes garage with all the blues stripped and just bleading guitars....

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Hmm... for me though those Yank bands were never truly heavy (I saw MC5 more as early punk).

But did anybody actually listen to or buy the MC5 at the time? I get the impression that they were pretty much of a nothing during the 60s.

 

[changingman]

But did anybody actually listen to or buy the MC5 at the time? I get the impression that they were pretty much of a nothing during the 60s.

I saw them at uni (yes I'm that old). As I recall they were kind of thrashy in a sort of Ramones way. Totally undistinguished. Almost totally unmemorable.

 

[Hollis]

Heavy rock was a peculiarly British phenomenon, forged in the molten metal crucible of the industrial revolution etc etc.

I like your style.

 

[belboid]

I saw the Sabs once before they were the Sabs. they were called Earth. Christ were they dull.

weren't they still somewhat...jazz influenced at that point in time?

*shudders*

 

[changingman]

weren't they still somewhat...jazz influenced at that point in time?

*shudders*

You're getting confused with Spinal Tap. Life imitating art etc. Earth were like Status Quo without the musical sophistication. Their name summed them up really. They had the stage presence of a mound of earth.

 

[boing!]

The pioneers of overdriven guitar tone, I don't think heavy rock would exist as it we know it now without Mesa Boogie.

 

[iROBOT]

Cream didn't get heavy till Disraeli Gears.

Not an expert but thanks for the information, must go and buy that album.

 

[changingman]

The pioneers of overdriven guitar tone, I don't think heavy rock would exist as it we know it now without Mesa Boogie.

Was that an ad?

Bolleaux. Mesa Boogie wasn't even in short trousers when the first 100-watt Marshall stack was built.

And that's another reason heavy rock was Brit thru and thru.. the yanks didn't have the amps. So maybe we can say Jim Marshall invented it!

 

[boing!]

you can't get the proper heavy tone out of an old marshall though. Maybe not heavy rock, but for metal they have been very important.

 

[Truly Topcat]

I thought The Kinks were credited with this one weren't they?

 

[E. Coli]

And that's another reason heavy rock was Brit thru and thru.. the yanks didn't have the amps. So maybe we can say Jim Marshall invented it!

word.
Although, now I use a yank amp.
Don't forget the AC30's as well.

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

The Kinks. 'You Really Got Me'. The first heavy rock song. And the first punk song as well. End of.

 

[Groucho]

(who also first used the term in a song)

What 'Heavy Metal Thunder' ?

 

[Groucho]

I thought The Kinks were credited with this one weren't they?

Yes. They were. definitely. By Ray Davies.

 

[dirtysanta]

Kinks.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Naw... not the Kinks... nope

 

[boing!]

I reckon it was helter skelter by The Beatles anyway...



*runs*

 

[Major Tom]

 

[nathansears]

link wray

Good call, seconded here even if everyone else has ignored it.

Do I smell of wee now?

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Naw... not the Kinks... nope

Yea...the Kinks...yep



THE KINKS