Who here are "known activists"? (Britain faces summer of rage - police)

[moon23]

*YAWN*

When are the OB going to realise that the best way to defuse activist stuff like this is not to heavily police events, but to let them run their course and let the 'movements' run out of steam via their own processes of internal and external alienation; i.e. through internal splits, and through these, their alienation from the larger, non-activist community who will join in en masse at the start, but will slowly drift away as the nature of some protests becomes more extreme.

It's crazy - the easiest way to defuse stuff like this is to subvert the most charismatic/noisy/genuinely intelligent 'leaders' into 'the system' via committees, commissions etc and let the rest peter out until the natural processes of such movements play themselves out. In doing so there is a far, far more instructive lesson to further protest - not that you'll have your heads cracked but one that is far deeper and longer lasting; that ultimately your 'movement' will be subverted and betrayed by it's own leadership (who can be ultimately revealed as those seeking individual reward/recognition); that any such protest has a naturalistic cycle; that ultimately, the vast bulk of the public that the 'movement' claims to represent will get tired and bored of endless disruption caused by ongoing protest, because the 'movement' doesn't actually represent them.

You have been reading too much Gramsci Honestly though at some points all movements simply become the status quo, the best one can hope for is that you tip it in the right direction a little.

I was planning on sitting on my ass in the great summer of "mild displeausre", but this summer of "Rage" the police have suggested sounds much more exciting. You never know we may even end up with a lesbian prime minister if we play our cards right.

I'm off to start the Summer of Rage facebook group or SoR for short, then perhaps if i'm feeling particulary middle-class and subversive a petition on the No. 10 website. Viva la revolution!

 

[Dr Jon]

The Spirit of '81 returns

 

[rekil]

Get Bono to back it, call it Make The Recession History, finally let it be known the Chancellor fully supports the message: result - emasculation.

A Bank Aid concert should do it. Cow the troublemakers and naysayers with a 'Do they know it's tough choices time' tune.

 

[dennisr]

Get Bono to back it, call it Make The Recession History, finally let it be known the Chancellor fully supports the message: result - emasculation.

Bono does for the middle strata what trade union leaders have been doing for the working class

 

[danny la rouge]

You have been reading too much Gramsci

Give him a break: he's come a long way since registering here. For him it's still the 80s.

 

[kyser_soze]

You have been reading too much Gramsci Honestly though at some points all movements simply become the status quo, the best one can hope for is that you tip it in the right direction a little.

I was planning on sitting on my ass in the great summer of "mild displeausre", but this summer of "Rage" the police have suggested sounds much more exciting. You never know we may even end up with a lesbian prime minister if we play our cards right.

I'm off to start the Summer of Rage facebook group or SoR for short, then perhaps if i'm feeling particulary middle-class and subversive a petition on the No. 10 website. Viva la revolution!

Why thank you, altho my Gramsci comes via Frank Herbert's Dune series - specifically Heretics of Dune!

I'd be quite up for some funnin' this summer too...

 

[FridgeMagnet]

"Okay, something might happen in summer, hmm, summer, summer... summer of love! Right, so... summer of hate doesn't sound good though, something else, they're angry, they're shouting, they're smashing Starbuckses... rage! Summer of rage. Perfect. Put that in."

"But rage isn't the opposite of love."

"Shut up and get me another drink."

 

[Prole]

The Ministry of Defence, on page 81 of a March 2007 report entitled, "The DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007-2036 (Third Edition)", noted what the State considers to be a core threat in the foreseeable future:

The Middle Class Proletariat

The middle classes could become a revolutionary class, taking the role envisaged for the proletariat by Marx. The globalization of labour markets and reducing levels of national welfare provision and employment could reduce peoples’ attachment to particular states. The growing gap between themselves and a small number of highly visible super-rich individuals might fuel disillusion with meritocracy, while the growing urban under-classes are likely to pose an increasing threat to social order and stability, as the burden of acquired debt and the failure of pension provision begins to bite. Faced by these twin challenges, the world’s middle-classes might unite, using access to knowledge, resources and skills to shape transnational processes in their own class interest.

 

[DotCommunist]

Give him a break: he's come a long way since registering here. For him it's still the 80s.

Man it's starting to feel like the eighties. War, terror, and recession.

Now all we need is a tory government to add authenticity to the eighties revival. And Shoulderpads.

 

[kyser_soze]

Give him a break: he's come a long way since registering here. For him it's still the 80s.

Have you seen current fashions and listened to current 'pop' music? It's an uneasy combination of the early 80s and early 90s.

I shouldn't think the wilder wet dreams of the protest'n'go crew on here will be realised tho...

 

[Badgers]

I plan to express my rage by staging a sit in at many of the parks in London.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Which websites?

He [Supt Hartshorn] added: "We've got G20 coming and I think that is being advertised on some of the sites as the highlight of what they see as a 'summer of rage'."

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=273941

 

[Pot-Bellied Pig]

Summer of Rage.

Its' all going to got pear shaped according to the top police officer in charge of public order.

With the credit crisis, banking collapse and the fear of mass unemployment it is predicted that people who have never demonstrated before will come out onto the streets at G20 and other rally's.

Is it finally the time for mass popular protest or will it again be hijacked by the masked anarchist frothing mouth brigade and the accompanied looting that has for so long prevented ordinary people from joining these events.

 

[DotCommunist]

Copper not checking the data shocker.
Allready a thread oh flat footed one

 

[bluestreak]

Hey. As an anarchist I resent that. I only loot on demos for things I don't really care about. And I always loot something for my elderly neighbour, who can't get out and loot with his hip.

 

[Sadken]

In the summer, in the city, in the summer, in the city...

 

[Badgers]

I reckon the winter of discontent would own the summer of rage in a fight or something

 

[Goatherd]

Followed by the Autumn of Ennui.

 

[Badgers]

Followed by the Autumn of Ennui.

Phhffft ^ ^

The Tim Henman of the battle of the seasons

 

[DotCommunist]

What about the spring of hope? It is always billed as eternal.

 

[Badgers]

What about the spring of hope? It is always billed as eternal.

Eternal only lasts until global warming kicks in big styleeee and then only summer and winter will remain

 

[Crispy]

merged

 

[Badgers]

merged

spring and autumn?

 

[Crispy]

spring and autumn?

fire and water, earth and air, love and hate

 

[DotCommunist]

fire and water, earth and air, love and hate

Captain Planet is formed from all but one of them things

 

[bluestreak]

Captain Planet is a borghwah manifestation of the hierarchical structures that cause pollution and oppression of our flora and fauna brethren and should be rejected as a hero only of the reformists and not the revolution.

 

[DotCommunist]

Captain Planet is a borghwah manifestation of the hierarchical structures that cause pollution and oppression of our flora and fauna brethren and should be rejected as a hero only of the reformists and not the revolution.

He should be rejected for being the crappest hero ever, even as a child I used to think 'wtf is this shit, and why isn't he fighting a giant lizard'

 

[kyser_soze]

Anyone who calls themselves Captain is suspect.

 

[danny la rouge]

looting

Never looted in my life. I'll bet you've "confiscated", though. Eh, officer?

 

[butchersapron]

Its' all going to got pear shaped according to the top police officer in charge of public order.

With the credit crisis, banking collapse and the fear of mass unemployment it is predicted that people who have never demonstrated before will come out onto the streets at G20 and other rally's.

I was wondering why you were suddenly so concerned about people being put out of a job:

Essex Policeman held over Rangers violence in manchester

A police officer has been arrested on suspicion of being involved in a violent football riot following a Uefa cup match in Manchester.

The man arrested, a serving officer with Essex Police, was identified as a suspect from CCTV images published on Greater Manchester Police website.

The arrested man is a serving Essex police officer and was off-duty at the time of the incident