Who Do You Think You Are Kim Cattrall

[Fedayn]

 

[Cid]

I imagine it's photoshop rather than plastic surgery.

 

[London_Calling]

I'd like to have heard his side. We haven't got a clue these days what it was like for so many such a short time ago, have we . . No NHS back when these women were children, effectively no welfare state, growing up hungry and, when you did have food, old newspapers for table cloths. And this is just your grandparents age. FFS.

Were there any men in that family at all?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

who saw Sharon Stone at 50 in the papers the other day?

Wonder which bits are real?

 

[Kanda]

who saw Sharon Stone at 50 in the papers the other day?

Wonder which bits are real?

Sharon deserves her own thread... Geezus!!

Then do a Monica Bellucci one.. thanks so much x

 

[madzone]

who saw Sharon Stone at 50 in the papers the other day?

Wonder which bits are real?

Not her tits

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Not her tits

yeah I guessed that much

 

[wiskey]

I thought that was interesting but Kim cattrall did my head in.

 

[Strumpet]

Holy fukn shit. I know it's prob. photoshopped to hell but that's HOT!

She was in Mannequin in the 80's

 

[scifisam]

Sharon Stone's boobs could be real. The way she's standing and the corset she's wearing could do enough to make them perky.

She was in Mannequin in the 80's

I had the HUGEST crush on her in that film. Think I might watch WDYTYA purely for that reason.

 

[Strumpet]

I#m gonna watch it at some point. I like Kimmy.

 

[London_Calling]

You should ladies! It's a decent one, better than that herbert last week, anyway.

 

[Geri]

I'd like to have heard his side. We haven't got a clue these days what it was like for so many such a short time ago, have we . . No NHS back when these women were children, effectively no welfare state, growing up hungry and, when you did have food, old newspapers for table cloths. And this is just your grandparents age. FFS.

I wondered about that as well. It sounds like he got married too young, fell out of love with his first wife and felt trapped. He also sounds like a bit of a wanderer and couldn't stay in one place for too long. It's interesting that he settled down completely with his second family and was by all accounts the model husband and father. I can understand why his first family felt so bitter though as his choices left them destitute.

 

[London_Calling]

I wondered about that as well. It sounds like he got married too young, fell out of love with his first wife and felt trapped. He also sounds like a bit of a wanderer and couldn't stay in one place for too long. It's interesting that he settled down completely with his second family and was by all accounts the model husband and father. I can understand why his first family felt so bitter though as his choices left them destitute.

I agree with a lot of what you say though I'm not sure he was quite the 'wanderer' characterised. Once away from Liverpool or poverty or the first marriage (whatever he felt the need to escape) he settled down to be a pretty normal family man and a good provider. 100,000's of families did exactly what they did in the 60s and became '£10 tourists', you could even make a case that it was intended to give the children a better future as most who went to Australia in that era believed.

KC's mother remembers him trying to take her with him when he went and he tried to explain to his own mother why he couldn't cope . . . but, in the end, he also abandoned 3 daughters and he knew the (pre-welfare state) circs in which he was leaving them. Maybe he had to shut all that off to cope with what he'd done.

Like I say, it would have been nice to hear his pov.

 

[scifisam]

Like I say, it would have been nice to hear his pov.

I watched it last night. I agree that with you, but it would still be pretty hard to come up with a POV that justified leaving three daughters so destitute that they didn't have enough food.

 

[London_Calling]

I'm not sure he'd want to justify it, you can't really. It seemed clear he was quite close to his own mother so we have to assume he didn't want to say goodbye to her and that side of his family. As said, he wanted to take his daughter with him . . but he felt compelled to leave forever. Like I say, perhaps the only way to cope with what he did was to shut it out completely.

Maybe it was the marriage, because he clicked into being a non-wandering, solid provider pretty quickly after leaving.

These days, of course, the welfare state kicks in immediately in those circs. I'm not sure if that has an influence on how we, the privilaged, should judge events from pre-war, and if we do how it influences . . .

 

[scifisam]

I'm not sure he'd want to justify it, you can't really. It seemed clear he was quite close to his own mother so we have to assume he didn't want to say goodbye to her and that side of his family. As said, he wanted to take his daughter with him . . but he felt compelled to leave forever. Like I say, prhaps the only way to cope with what he did was to shut it out completely.

Maybe it was the marriage, because he clicked into being a non-wandering, solid provider pretty quickly after leaving.

These days, of course, the welfare state kicks in immediately in those circs. I'm not sure if that has an influence on how we, the privilaged, should judge events from pre-war, and if we do how it influences . . .

I can understand him wanting to leave his wife, but the kids? Nah. He could even have sent them money anonymously instead of letting his first family live in poverty - which he would have known was inevitable. There is no excuse no matter how many generations are between us. There are feckless parents now, and there were then.

 

[London_Calling]

How would you send money anonymously in the 30s and 40s - a local post mark on a letter would lead straight to him and reveal his bigamist 'crime'?

Not that I think he was minded to do that, I do think he shut that part of his life off completely, probably in order to cope.

 

[scifisam]

How would you send money anonymously in the 30s and 40s - a local post mark on a letter would lead straight to him and reveal his bigamist 'crime'?

Not that I think he was minded to do that, I do think he shut that part of his life off completely, probably in order to cope.

Somehow I think that a man who could move fifty miles and engage in a bigamous remarriage would be able to send his other family money in the days when banks weren't as strict as they are now.

 

[fen_boy]

She was in Police Academy as well.

 

[London_Calling]

Somehow I think that a man who could move fifty miles and engage in a bigamous remarriage would be able to send his other family money in the days when banks weren't as strict as they are now.

Sorry Sam, but I think you're being overly optimistic if you think they knew what the inside of a bank looked like.

 

[vauxhallmum]

I thought it was a bit sad really. She started the programme thinking her Grandad but a bit of a bastard and finished it thinking he was a total and utter bastard.
Shame

 

[Rollem]

the guy did come across as a tad selfish, but it would have been so much better if he were still alive and able to give his version of events. I can't believe anyone could just up and leave their family and start afresh with a whole new one and not feel and sense of grief or guilt.

thought her mum and aunt's response was quite sad really, but nice to see that they did get in touch with their half-siblings in australia. maybe that will prove the first step in laying old ghosts to rest?

 

[London_Calling]

As a programme though, I do think it's at its best as a social history tool - but even now I can't think how that family fed itself and survived. I presume the mother found work. Plus the extended family maybe.

 

[Nemo]

As a programme though, I do think it's at its best as a social history tool - but even now I can't think how that family fed itself and survived. I presume the mother found work. Plus the extended family maybe.

IIRC it said in the show that the mother flogged off pretty much everything which wasn't nailed down and took a full-time job. No help from family apparently.

 

[marty21]

IIRC it said in the show that the mother flogged off pretty much everything which wasn't nailed down and took a full-time job. No help from family apparently.

the mother-in law, must have known about the circs of her son's kids in both families, can't believe she wasn't aware

 

[ViolentPanda]

As a programme though, I do think it's at its best as a social history tool - but even now I can't think how that family fed itself and survived. I presume the mother found work. Plus the extended family maybe.

The same way a lot of families did: A combination of neighbourly charity, a small amount of local authority welfare assistance, criminality, help from the church and any work you could find.
Try reading something along the lines of John Benson's "The Working Class in Britain, 1850-1939" for a fairly concise overview of how the destitute managed, especially once "the workhouse" was abolished.

 

[Maggot]

Is she really short, or is that a very high pool table?

 

[London_Calling]

IIRC it said in the show that the mother flogged off pretty much everything which wasn't nailed down and took a full-time job. No help from family apparently.

No help from his family is all we were told.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I thought this was the best one so far.

I've never seen her in anything before (although apparently she was in Porkies) but she looks amazing for her age. I'm assuming surgery is involved though.

You have never seen mannequin?

Shame on you.