Who are the great female "thinkers" and philosophers?

[Wolveryeti]

Germaine Greer.

 

[Fictionist]

There are none.

 

[camouflage]

Such is the nature of our society that the ignorant masses would say ether "there are none" or "Germaine Greer".

And to be fair, I must count myself among those ignorant masses. Enlightenment welcome.

 

[Wolveryeti]

Why do you take against Germaine Greer?

 

[kyser_soze]

She's a social commentator and feminist, not a philosopher.

 

[isitme]

i wonder how much it has to do with the idea of 'god' being turned into a male rather than female character/thing

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Theresa of Avila
Hildagard von Bingen
Madame de Stael
Emma Goldman

I might include Saint Brigid of Ireland. She left no writings that I know of, but she founded two monastic orders and a major scriptorium.

 

[camouflage]

Do writers count? If so, Ursula LeGuin.

Probably they don't coz there's loads of great female writers of various kinds.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Which just goes to show that a lot of academia is the same old bollocks the rest of us talk about down the pub, couched in fancy terms.

The reason these people get called clever is that they've found a way of getting paid for it.

Which, let's face it, is clever.

This is very true. I was talking to Mr Paw t'other day about academia. He's coming to the end of his PhD and I'm starting to think about a proposal for funding to start mine. We both acknowledged that we were frauds.

 

[Dillinger4]

This is very true. I was talking to Mr Paw t'other day about academia. He's coming to the end of his PhD and I'm starting to think about a proposal for funding to start mine. We both acknowledged that we were frauds.

 

[isitme]

This is very true. I was talking to Mr Paw t'other day about academia. He's coming to the end of his PhD and I'm starting to think about a proposal for funding to start mine. We both acknowledged that we were frauds.

i don't agree with this tbh

i mean, of course having a phD doesn't mean you're clever, but it does show that you can be arsed to follow it through

i'd imagine that it's a fairly small minority who don't have the brains to do a phD, but not many people actually do

 

[Vintage Paw]

i don't agree with this tbh

i mean, of course having a phD doesn't mean you're clever, but it does show that you can be arsed to follow it through

i'd imagine that it's a fairly small minority who don't have the brains to do a phD, but not many people actually do

I think it's the whole self-perpetuating field thing. In that you write papers and research stuff that, unless it is truly very useful to society (which writing about contemporary American literature just really ever so much isn't), simply helps sustain the field so people can write more papers. Etc.

I don't know. Obviously I think it's worth doing or I wouldn't be doing it, but I think you have to have a healthy realisation that there is a fraudulent aspect to it too.

Incidentally, and this has no relation to this thread, I was ordering a veg box today and the drop down box for 'title' had the most options I've ever seen (Including Brigadeer General). As well as single titles there were double ones: there was Dr & Mrs, Mrs & Dr, Mr & Mr, Prof & Mr etc. No Dr & Dr though, and no Prof & Prof. Harrumph.

 

[isitme]

I think it's the whole self-perpetuating field thing. In that you write papers and research stuff that, unless it is truly very useful to society (which writing about contemporary American literature just really ever so much isn't), simply helps sustain the field so people can write more papers. Etc.

I don't know. Obviously I think it's worth doing or I wouldn't be doing it, but I think you have to have a healthy realisation that there is a fraudulent aspect to it too.

Incidentally, and this has no relation to this thread, I was ordering a veg box today and the drop down box for 'title' had the most options I've ever seen (Including Brigadeer General). As well as single titles there were double ones: there was Dr & Mrs, Mrs & Dr, Mr & Mr, Prof & Mr etc. No Dr & Dr though, and no Prof & Prof. Harrumph.

that's true for a lot of things in society tho. i can see your point, and specially since there have been so many phDs I've been told coming up with one that hasn't been done is one of the most difficult parts of it. but i do think learning for it's own sake is important

maybe they expect professors to have people to order their veg boxes for them

 

[gorski]

Indeed, women have only begun their road to Enlightenment and Wholeness... And, speaking in broad terms, it's but a nanosecond of development... So, good stuff has started and it will develop - but we won't be around to see it.

The best we have on Earth: in Sweden half the Parliament is female MPs. Men don't even open the doors for women any more etc. Still not equal, mind... Allegedly, "Swedish women are always pregnant"...

And it's dragging us [men] down, not to mention it all being boring, when without an equal, "rational" partner...

Ahem... Good luck to us all...

 

[butchersapron]

Brilliant, just brilliant!

 

[gorski]

Which bit, oh, Mighty One? The fact you're a male and full of testosterone at all times and can't possibly get yourself into a female shoes, as it were... I bet you can't really use any of that testosterone properly...

I was continuing on some elements of a previous post by Frankie, which are true: millennia of oppression and exploitation, deprived of ANY education, being told what to do and not being allowed to grow up, to become independent...

What has to be said, though is that it applies to most men, too!!! Albeit many less, proportionally speaking. But that is changing.

However, trivial though it may be to some, I find it is worth reminding people that wholesale changes on a societal scale are much slower than an individual experiences.

Especially if one is a BA type primadonna and wants everything right here and right now, regardless of how possible or impossible it is... Or else!!!

Ridiculous, just ridiculous!!!

 

[butchersapron]

Even better!

 

[gorski]

Much better than ANYTHING you can ever come up with, that's for sure!!

 

[isitme]

 

[Detroit City]

um, sinead o'conor?

 

[butchersapron]

Much better than ANYTHING you can ever come up with, that's for sure!!

Certainly different from anything i would come up with yes.

 

[gorski]

You never come up with anything at all. Deffo not meaningful, with any real chance of actually "happening" as in occuring... Then, you sulk on the sidelines, smarting your life away... Not very clever, anyone can dream up just about anything, then bang on about it, knowing full well it's in vain...

Sad or vain?

 

[butchersapron]

I just don't think that i'm capable of your above few posts.

 

[gorski]

That's why you are where you are...

 

[butchersapron]

I applaud at last some insight.

 

[kyser_soze]

This thread had gone all mount Etna...

 

[gorski]

What esle do you expect from all balls, no seriousness, BA?!?