Who are the great female "thinkers" and philosophers?
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The Groke
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You are probably right for the most part.
There surely must have been the female equivalents to Newton, Da Vinci etc though, who had ideas and insights bursting unbidden out of their brain 24/7 and with no effective or acceptable outlet for them.
cesare
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boohoo
No.
er...no. well, we were the silent minority not allowed to do much except have babies and be treated as second class citizens only allowed to vote because didn't we do well letting our delicate little selves work in factories during the first world war.But isn't your history the same as ours, but with boobs on?
Yes, there is similarities in an overall history - kings, governments etc but women's history is about what they were doing whilst this was going on.
Bjork. She is a great philosopher living today.
boohoo
No.
You are probably right for the most part.
There surely must have been the female equivalents to Newton, Da Vinci etc though, who had ideas and insights bursting unbidden out of their brain 24/7 and with no effective or acceptable outlet for them.
they'd have to be educated and not married off and their views would have had to be deemed important and not female fancy or time of the month rantings. Which really wasn't happening back then...
8ball
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Ok, everyone, lets not get distracted by this - it was going well . . .
boohoo
No.
hehe...
That's alright. There is some interesting books on women's history - not too dull but fascinating insights into sometimes quite powerful women who tend to not get much mention in the history books.
cesare
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Not just about having babies. Keeping the household going. Still mostly the same now (not in all cases, before any enlightened men get cross), but still mostly the same.
Ayn Rand is a Twentieth Century one if you can stomach her ideas.
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The Groke
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Well quite - but what I am saying is that regardless of social standing, education, sexual equality and economic factors it is rather tragic that those women gifted with natural intelligence and subtlety of though would have been completely ignored for many, many, many years.
Oh I know this is all obvious observation, but as a lunk-headed bloke, it is not the sort of think I turn my thoughts to very often.
cesare
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Still are Swarfy. Look at the amount of criticism aimed at Anita Roddick compared to other equivalent male capitalist counterparts, just as an example.
boohoo
No.
There is a much higher expectation placed on women then men. It seemed that cherie Booth (Blair) wasn't allowed to have a separate opinion to her husband.
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The Groke
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I suppose then the sad and erroneous assumption from sympathetic, mostly decent yet uninvolved men like me is that we have actually achieved sexual equality, when that isn't the case.
Um. Wow - I am having an awful attack of "stating the obviouses" amidst bouts of "posting the pointless"
Damn you rum.
Sorry.
Not sure what I am really trying to say this evening. Perhaps I should go back to half-heartedly mocking stobe's caption thread.
cesare
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Not just that, but much of the criticism directed at her was also directed at her looks/dress sense in order to diminish her. Not that I'm a particular fan of Cherie Booth mind.
girasol
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The Groke
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girasol
Addicted to handstands!
yeah?
Well I bet you hit like a girl.
Yep, I hit like a girl, a very strong one
where it hurts
boohoo
No.
I'm not a fan but was irritated at the press's outrage when she decided to do something that didn't fit in with her husband's political party's view...
why would you think it odd? she is really logical and extremely philosophical in all her interviews. her words too, are very philosophical. The triumph of a heart's lyrics are very wise. She's abstract though, and a bit too much for most people.
Vintage Paw
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I like this argument and haven't thought of any holes in it yet.
I read a fair bit of Bourdieu, and although it's a pretty obvious point his stuff is where I kind of got that from. Most specifically, I was recently reading his essay on The Field of Cultural Production or, The Economic World Reversed, in which he maps the French literary field of the late nineteenth century. In doing so he asserts (and I'm massively simplifying) that those who were economically independent were able to feign 'disinterestedness' and focus on form, while those who weren't focused on function. As I say, an obvious point, but it sets it down in real terms that makes it easy to see how it can be said of other types of activities.
Vintage Paw
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It's not just because you're a man you think that. I posted in another thread a couple of days ago about a fellow MRes student who announced she couldn't see the point in feminism now because the feminist movement had achieved all it set out to do.
girasol
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The Groke
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Do you think then that the feminist movement hasn't evolved as it needs to, or that people have just become complacent and/or disinterested?
Vintage Paw
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I wish!
I killed her in the face silently with my eyes.
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