Who are histories Greatest Scapegoats?

[Poi E]

Who did the poor invariably scapegoat?

See what I mean?

 

[In Bloom]

Who did the poor invariably scapegoat?

Yeah, because anti-semitism is limited entirely to the working class, right?

 

[PygmyChimp]

Yeah, because anti-semitism is limited entirely to the working class, right?

No, not at all.

 

[In Bloom]

No, not at all.

So would you care to explain your implication that the working class are inherently anti-semitic?

 

[butchersapron]

Vot about the poor jews? Surely we have a winner?

 

[Jo/Joe]

poor jews that were also witches?

 

[PygmyChimp]

So would you care to explain your implication that the working class are inherently anti-semitic?

I suggest you re-read what I wrote. I said invariably, not inherently.

 

[butchersapron]

What's the diff prof? Invariably mans unchanging. So justify your claim.

 

[PygmyChimp]

What's the diff prof? Invariably mans unchanging. So justify your claim.

OK, so there's no real difference in the dictionary, although colloquially I would say that inherently is "deeper" than invariably. But, perhaps I did mean inherently afterall -- and I'm not sure that I'm particularly wrong.

 

[butchersapron]

So make that case then - you've not done so far.

 

[revol68]

OK, so there's no real difference in the dictionary, although colloquially I would say that inherently is "deeper" than invariably. But, perhaps I did mean inherently afterall -- and I'm not sure that I'm particularly wrong.

the working class are inherently anti semitic, that would come as news to a few people, like ole Rudolf Rocker.

 

[gurrier]

The Jews without any shadow of doubt whatsoever. No more debate needed (none was necessary to begin with).

No way. It's got to be the lizards.

I mean they barely have a fucking brain and they get blamed for all the world's evil.

 

[revol68]

man can you not grasp subtext? The jews are lizards!

 

[gurrier]

man can you not grasp subtext? The jews are lizards!

That's only the royal lizards. It's well known that lizard workers are anti-semites.

 

[\\-(*o*)-//]

Feminism.

I would agree with that.

 

[Jo/Joe]

feminism? over the course of history?

 

[Good Intentions]

Over the course of it's existence it's had some pretty good bigotry for your buck aimed against it - from the proto-feminists in the early C19 British Reform movement onwards, they have been a favourite whipping boy of 'right-minded' individuals.

But scapegoat? That's something else.

 

[SeniorSbagliato]

No-one's mentioned Asylum Seekers, have they?

Do I win now?

 

[\\-(*o*)-//]

feminism? over the course of history?

Depends what you mean by feminism.

 

[Good Intentions]

What have feminists been blamed for? Other than bad grooming?

While they are commonly pointed to for loose moral standards , only the like of Pat Robertson actually blame them for it.

Mocked, misrepresented and targets of misogyny, yes. Made a scapegoat of, no.

 

[Poi E]

What have feminists been blamed for? Other than bad grooming?.

And missed meal times.

 

[thestraightman]

goats

 

[thestraightman]

especially scapey ones

 

[rusalki]

who bears the blame

There is plenty of scapegoats in history...

The late medieval and the early modern times have been particular "productive" periods for scapegoats.

From the Lepers, to the Jews, to Witches -

The witch is a disquieting example: while the leper and the jew belonged to a specific group (distinguished by the illness or the ethnicity) not so witches. Everyone could be a witch. Everyone could be a scapegoat.

 

[Dr. Furface]

Graham Taylor

 

[JWH]

The point about a scapegoat is that they're someone entirely innocent (and irrelevant) that has the troubles of the wider community blamed on them. So you could (ludicrously) argue that Stalin has received too much blame for what were also Trot+Len's mistakes but as he was not totally irrelevant/innocent, he can't have been a scapegoat.

 

[Ryazan]

The Stalin bit on the other page was a joke.

But as they say- a chicken in every pot, a bullet in every trot.