There would probably also be record numbers for his public execution.
Andrew Anglin has already been testing the limits of "free speech" at GAB to near destruction. His online advice for his supporters to sign up has focussed a lot of attention on the site, and the domain registrar for GAB, AsianRegistry.com, has been receiving lots of complaints.
Sarcasm I imagine.Why is a devout racist using the phrase 'n-word' to describe a racist slur?
No further details. Black had instructed lawyers to try to retrieve the domain name from registrar Network Solutions.We'll probably get the Stormfront.org domain back first of next week, without going to court.
The fact that demonstrating this is going to be an uphill battle for GAB is cruelly highlighted by the legal action which author, blogger and scumbag Vox Day has already begun to require GAB to disclose the identities of a number of it's users who made libelous statements about him.In a statement, Google described the lawsuit as "baseless," and said it would defend its decision in court, if necessary. "In order to be on the Play Store, social networking apps need to demonstrate a sufficient level of moderation, including for content that encourages violence and advocates hate against groups of people," Google said.
His friend and colleague Andrew Anglin is still being critically 'supportive' of GAB but other "Weev" supporters are deliberately pushing the envelope of "free speech". As one example, in direct response to the post announcing "Weev"'s suspension this was posted by a GAB user (one who had been banned from the Daily Stormer BBS in the past for going too far) :In the initial wave of the site when Torba was building his userbase the sites’s frontpage title prominently displayed the text of the First Amendment. Now after they’ve swindled users of well over a million dollars it bills itself as an “ad-free” network. No longer free speech, just a bad Twitter knockoff with a really bad UI that for some reason you have to pay for.
Grapevine spoke with ISNIC CEO Jens Pétur Jensen about the matter. “What we are doing right now, in this particular situation, is we are writing to the National Police,” Jens told us. “We are asking them if or how we should respond and asking them for guidance.”
Also interestingly :One of the reasons why this matters is because Iceland does have hate speech laws; specifically, Article 233(a) of the Icelandic Penal Code specifically forbids the dissemination of speech that in “a ridiculing, slanderous, insulting, threatening or any other manner” targets an individual or groups based, amongst other things, on their race or religion.
Another operation that ISNIC has done is asked the registrant – in this case, Anglin himself – to correct his registration, by providing proof of his identity in the form of legal documents. He has one week to do this, otherwise the domain will be closed.
Anglin may be reluctant to comply with any request to supply contact details since he is evading being served with legal papers by various people including SPLC lawyers acting for Tanya Gersh, a Jewish estate agent whose family was targetted for abuse after she became briefly involved with the possible sale of a house belonging to Richard Spencer's mother. (Gersh's account of what followed at that link).“He has to provide ISNIC with legal documents of his being,” Jens says. “This is something all registries can do, but it has nothing to do with the content. It only has to do with the registration itself. If [Anglin] doesn’t reveal himself and prove his being, we will close his access to the domain. After two weeks, the domain itself will be moved from the DNS that is hosting it now onto the ISNIC’s parking site. It will be unable to connect to any DNS server whatsoever, and it will automatically expire. We wouldn’t be taking the domain from him; we would just not enable him to renew it.”
That makes what the Icelandic registrar has done rather a neat move . It might be "accidental", but I rather like the idea that a perfectly reasonable administrative process, which should not in the normal run of things be seen as unreasonable, might be problematic to someone who is attempting to hide behind anonymity in order to evade the consequences of his exercise of free (hate) speech elsewhere. I'm sure it may have all kinds of ramifications for the principle of free speech, but it does feel like a nice bit of poetic justice!Icelandic news site The Reykjavik Grapevine reports that ISNIC the top level registrar for .is domains is "exploring options" regarding The Daily Stormer.
Also interestingly :
Anglin may be reluctant to comply with any request to supply contact details since he is evading being served with legal papers by various people including SPLC lawyers acting for Tanya Gersh, a Jewish estate agent whose family was targetted for abuse after she became briefly involved with the possible sale of a house belonging to Richard Spencer's mother. (Gersh's account of what followed at that link).
Network Solutions had sent an undated letter from their lawyer in Canada indicating they would release the domain once we had "complied" and moved to another registrar. Problem is, we can't move, because they have our domain locked. So far, they haven't responded to my requests. I will call their lawyer today.
Now, this is the the bad news. I'm looking at our bank account. With a website most people already consider dead, and without having been able to accept credit cards for the past two months, we have only $633 in the bank. We must get at least $1200 in the bank today to pay Rense Radio (we're already late) and a small server bill, We have about $170 in contributions sent to our PO Box, so my wife and I will need to come up with the difference to keep the radio show going another month, which we will. The show generates most of our contributions now.
Our big, scary bills hit the first part of next month. We must come up with at least $2000 in ten days. With our board mostly disabled, our server bills are the same. Judging from the current levels of contributions, I think we won't come close, and my wife and I can no longer afford the difference, so SF will indeed be dead as we know it.
Even if we got our domain back today, and we may be able to use Hatreon for credit card contributions soon, it would take a while to regain our audience.
While it's perfectly conceivable that the financial problems can be overcome in the short term through donations, this does emphasise what a shoestring operation it is.I'm hoping to keep the radio show going, probably reducing it to one hour, thus decreasing our expenses by half, and using the small server to run a limited access board. Also downgrading our Cloudflare account. But even that will probably be a struggle.
I'll also need to refund many of those who aren't attending our conference. And there will be legal expenses, particularly if we go to trial, though we'll get damages and attorney fees if we win. But that will take a while.
The Stormfront message board is currently being visited by about 100 members a day, a significant reduction on numbers from before the domain was suspended.Talked to Network Solutions' lawyer about three hours ago. After routinely verifying my identity and whois informatiion, he said he would unlock our domain, so we could move it. He was fairly friendly after that.
But Network Solutions hasn't done it yet.
Jens Pétur Jensen, the manager of ISNIC, the Icelandic domain name registry, told the local newspaper Morgunblaðið that the company will not cancel the registration of the Daily Stormer on its own. The reason is that ISNIC is not a registrar, but only a registry. The company therefore cannot as easily remove material from the web, its manager told Morgnublaðið.
However, ISNIC and the National Commissioner of the Police will meet tomorrow, Wednesday, to discuss how best to respond to the registration. Jens Pétur Jensen, the manager of ISNIC told Morgunblaðið that the Neo Nazi website has damaged the image of the Icelandic domain .is, and that ISNIC has received a number of complaints and cancellations of service from foreign companies and individuals who had registered their domains in Iceland.
On that occasion ISNIC were quoted as stating that the domains were closed for business reasons, to protect the reputation of the .is domain. However ISNIC's lawyer alsoISNIC has only once cancelled a registration for an Icelandic domain name. In 2014 two sites linked to the so-called Islamic State ISIS were closed by ISNIC.
It looks as if in the case of the Stormer ISNIC are seeking guidance about whether its content breaches Icelands Penal Code before making a decision.referred to the company’s domain registration rules, which state that “the right holder is responsible that the usage of the domain is in accordance with current law and regulation.”
Jens Pétur Jensen, the CEO of ISNIC, the registry company for .is domains, told Grapevine that he has met with police on the matter.
Daily Stormer is not hosted in Iceland, but in the US. It is for this reason that Iceland’s hate speech laws cannot be enforced to shut down the website. A registered domain can be likened to an address which merely points to a site’s IP. However, ISNIC does have terms of service, and it is through these terms that the site may lose its .is domain.
“Our terms of service are very clear,” Jens told us. “All registrants must provide proof of who they are, and where they are physically located. [Daily Stormer founder Andrew Anglin] doesn’t want to do that.”
Anglin's public response to the suggestion that “He has to provide ISNIC with legal documents of his being” was :Andrew reportedly told Jens that he would not provide this information as he is concerned that Jens would in turn give this information to the Icelandic police, who may then give it to law enforcement in the United States. Jens confirmed that he would in fact do exactly that.
The domain still resolves for me as I post this (it will take a while for the change to propagate and for caches to empty), however a WHOIS search shows the domain is currently 'On Hold' and subject to a 'Registry-Lock'.Oh I’ll prove my being, alright.
I can promise you that.
I’ll prove my being a straight-up gangsta who doesn’t give a fuck.
Perhaps that "using the internet session" might profitably include some advice on not giving out an email address for anyone to get conference details and as a result emailing them out to your opponents."We wanted to actually make this more of an activist-oriented conference and get a younger audience," Roper said, adding that the conference would feature lectures on activism, running for local office and using the Internet to dig up personal details about "adversaries and allies."
(...)The group plans to meet Friday night at the Beef and Barrel Restaurant and Lounge in Crossville.
Bruce Cannon, the restaurant owner, wrote on the restaurant's Facebook page about the event.
"We serve the public at our will and we do not discriminate against anyone's religious racial or sexual preferences," Cannon wrote. "We do not ask nor are we allowed to ask and discriminate service based on any of these our policy is to serve our guests regardless as long as they respect our fellow customers, staff and business."
The conference was then due to reconvene today (Saturday) at Cumberland Mountain State Park.Later Friday, the restaurant ultimately cancelled the group's reservation after a series of negative online reviews.
Eric Ward, spokesman for the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation, said parks do not ask for the reason for a reservation when an application is made.
ROFLFriday he said TDEC had not confirmed whether the event was taking place or not, despite talking with local law enforcement agencies. He said no one has applied for the demonstration permit required by state park rules.