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White supremacist chatroom Stormfront taken offline

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
The Stormercuntsite has reportedly moved over to the dark net...since the internet is dark enough for me perhaps someone else here knows if stormcunt is likely to same and what that might mean?
 

Rutita1

Council Estate Socialist
“White women expect [dominance] from us and have HIGH subconscious barriers to let only an alpha white male through,” he wrote. “Sex is the outward communication of acceptance of the other’s genetic fitness and possible child bearing of his genes. This because white men were always aggressive in a good kind of way.”
Been up since 6am...just fucking lol. Other demographics are misogynists and women haters exclusively right? :facepalm: In the profound word, catch all term of the Orange Donald. Sad. :(
 

xenon

ContentIsBuffering....
Can someone please walk me through how anything on the internet is actually a free speech issue?

I can see many cases where it's clearly not a free speech issue, such as a youtube channel censoring comments, or a web forum banning certain users. My understanding is that not allowing contributions of a certain kind, or not at all, does not equal censorship. Just as the opposite does not equal free speech, simply the permission to contribute on the platform offered by the publisher or owner. (I.e. a newspaper not publishing articles by anyone and everyone who submits one is not censorship either. it would be ludicrous to expect that, and it's not preventing anyone from publishing or stating their beliefs elsewhere)
There are commercially driven attacks on net nutrality. But a web host deciding, when it's finacially inexpedient to dump a site, isn't that. Nazis are bad PR. Now people are looking.
 

teqniq

DisMembered
I managed to slay my own reputation more than once.

As for the fate of Scumfront, it begs the question - where will the itchy fingered cretins migrate to?
I expect the site will have quickly reestablished itself on the tor network as has the Daily Stormer

Rutita1 I imagine a lot of it's members would already be familiar with the 'darknet' so would have little trouble accessing it. It will make it initially more difficult for 'newbies' both to the far right scene and the net in general but not for very long.
 

bemused

Well-Known Member
I wonder if they'll do what the Daily Stormer did and run their site out of Algeria - something that made me chuckle for a good five minutes.
 

Lurdan

old wave
I guess it's a function of the inaccurate reporting about this but Stormfront hasn't been "taken down" in the sense some people seem to be assuming. The domain 'stormfront.org' has been suspended by Network Solutions it's registrar. So if you try to go to that address it doesn't resolve.

However the server on which the board is located hasn't been affected. It's still exactly where it was and - as of a couple of minutes ago when I looked - the board is functioning. Or would be if more than a tiny minority of it's users could access it. It's not at the address where people expect to find it, and - deeply sad this - you can't get to the server by typing in the IP number because the site has Cloudflare protection to protect it from DDOS attacks, and this also prevents that kind of direct access.

There is a workaround for computer users by modifying their HOSTS file but that's probably a bit technical for the majority of the userbase. For smartphone or tablet users it also requires rooting their device. Although instructions have been posted online it's clear that few have either found them or applied them, and there are only a handful of new posts.

On the latest edition of his radio show founder and cunt in charge Don Black confirmed that Network Solutions are preventing him from transferring the domain name to another registrar. He stated his lawyers would be taking steps to try to unlock it, and that he had been offered outside legal assistance. Although he had other domain names already registered his initial feeling was to try and retrieve 'stormfront.org'.

If that's unsuccessful there's nothing to stop the board adopting another domain name and being back open for business. It's not as if there's any shortage of less choosy registrars as the reemergence of the Daily Stormer using an Albanian domain address demonstrates.
 

nuffsaid

But this goes up to 11
Mate of mine works for Cloudflare - they were responsible for traffic maintenance for Daily Stormer and got loads of hate comments and tweets from people thinking they were supporting them. Cloudflare replied that they just supported traffic maintenance between sites and do not in anyway endorse any views held by sites. Daily Stormer apparently waded in and thanked Cloudlfare for their support and agreeing with their views. So Cloudflare responded and binned their support of them.

Then Cloudflare got loads of hate comments and tweets saying they were against freedom of speech on the internet. Can't win.
 
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bemused

Well-Known Member
Mate of mine works for Cloudflare - they were responsible for traffic maintenance for Stormfront and got loads of hate comments and tweets from people thinking they were supporting them. Cloudflare replied that they just supported traffic maintenance between sites and do not in anyway endorse any views held by sites. Stormfront apparently waded in and thanked Cloudlfare for their support and agreeing with their views. So Cloudflare responded and binned their support of them.

Then Cloudflare got loads of hate comments and tweets saying they were against freedom of speech on the internet. Can't win.
Cloudflare demonstrates why these companies try to avoid moral judgements of these sites. They withdrew service from the Dialy Stomer but haven't done the same on this site - they'll end up at the end of campaigns for all sorts of sites.
 

Lurdan

old wave
Cloudflare isn't the only game in town. The Daily Stormer are currently using rival service BitMitigate, who are actively promoting their commitment to free speech




Every problem is an opportunity.
 

bemused

Well-Known Member
Cloudflare isn't the only game in town. The Daily Stormer are currently using rival service BitMitigate, who are actively promoting their commitment to free speech




Every problem is an opportunity.
I didn't read his statement did it say 'cloudflare have all the good customers we're left with the shit?'
 

Poi E

Well-Known Member
This wasn't shut down by lawmakers or anything though, rather it seems their domain registrar Network Solutions (a pretty shonky setup in my experience!) pulled the plug.
Happens all the time. Registrars' terms of service grant some pretty wide powers to take down domains, mostly used for alleged breaches of IP.
 

Lurdan

old wave
And the Daily Stormer has been booted off it's Albanian domain.

Albanian domain registrar kicks Neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer offline - ZDnet
Host.al, an Albanian domain registrar, confirmed in an email to ZDNet that it has "blocked" the site after receiving complaints. The company said it had also seen "a number of tweets" pointing at the issue.
Unlike previous bootings this time the Stormer seems to have been able to set up a redirect. First this sent anyone going to their .al address to Andrew Anglin's account at Austin Texas based right-wing social media network GAB, and now it serves a page with instructions on how to access the site via TOR and a link to that GAB account

If Anglin is downhearted he's not showing it



"Is this the end of Rico ?" I wouldn't bet any money on it myself.

 
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