That's hardly what I said now is it you clueless muppet?
i wasn't the one that mis-interpreted the whole point of the programme
White Season: The Poles Are Coming!
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i wasn't the one that mis-interpreted the whole point of the programme
Well i had assumed the job would be ongoing (otherwise it really isn't worth it for one day) and thus the same as our polish friend who woulnd up working there.
Working for one day just seems a total waste of time compared to signing on. If you want people to work, offer something substantial at least!
zenie
>^^<
The point was they wouldn't do it for one day, never mind as a full time job. The work's too hard for their soft hands.....
so he only got one days work?
I thought he'd been taken on permanently. This seems more questionable as it goes on!
This all seems to be somewhat questionable. And the focused on one guy running a construction business and a farmer who wants people to spend 10 hours a day 6 days a week picking veg for the posh.
Is this the way we want society to be?
In time of course the Poles, naturalised, will be just like those complaining about foreigners stealing jobs.
well no, there's a big diff between one day's casual work and a secure ongoing job (even if for 6 months). This is all largely ridiculous, surely?The point was they wouldn't do it for one day, never mind as a full time job. The work's too hard for their soft hands.....
Try not to be condecending and I might bother engaging with you, prick.
difficult not to be when you take such a blinkered view of the information presented to you
The point was they wouldn't do it for one day, never mind as a full time job. The work's too hard for their soft hands.....
Diddums. They should wear a pair of gloves.
zenie
>^^<
difficult not to be when you take such a blinkered view of the information presented to you
You see I find it quite easy not to be condesending. Get your head out your arse and you might be able to too.
Wishface said:
They could have either if they wanted to work there, I think that was the point. Bit superfluous debating the finer details of a TV programme though innit?
I dunno, is it? Seemed quite central to the point of the programme really.You see I find it quite easy not to be condesending. Get your head out your arse and you might be able to too.
They could have either if they wanted to work there, I think that was the point. Bit superfluous debating the finer details of a TV programme though innit?
christonabike
Elm Park Bencher
Apart from all the other issues, I found that the lads who preferred to be on the dole were idiots and detracted from the issues
The whole point is that when you start your working life, at the bottom, you do the hard jobs that no-one else will do
From there, you move on up as you grow up - it's how things work
The problems presented (lack of school places, and I presume, the overloading of local services) will be solved with the tax revenue from the working Poles being channelled into these areas
The old lady complaining about no-one on her street to talk to could have been caused by many things, eg. no-one liking her as she has a low tolerance of foreign people in the area
Mrs Patel complaining took the fucking biscuit, I feel. Someone was saying that the Poles were living twelve to a house, something that used to be levelled at Indian immigrants
That's all folks
The whole point is that when you start your working life, at the bottom, you do the hard jobs that no-one else will do
From there, you move on up as you grow up - it's how things work
The problems presented (lack of school places, and I presume, the overloading of local services) will be solved with the tax revenue from the working Poles being channelled into these areas
The old lady complaining about no-one on her street to talk to could have been caused by many things, eg. no-one liking her as she has a low tolerance of foreign people in the area
Mrs Patel complaining took the fucking biscuit, I feel. Someone was saying that the Poles were living twelve to a house, something that used to be levelled at Indian immigrants
That's all folks
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
All Polish girls are pretty.I know there are lots in London.And they are very nice as well.Im all for EU expansion
.christonabike
Elm Park Bencher
The Polish lads cracked me up
"I'd go back home for them two!"
Haha
"I'd go back home for them two!"
Haha
Iguana
Well-Known Member
It was Britain and Ireland. And that is over now. EU countries were only allowed a max 7 year opt out under the terms of the Nice Treaty, which was ratified in May 2002. Certain countries like Germany have now ended their opt out and citizens of the 10 2002 accession states are entitled to all EU citizen rights there now. Citizens of countries which acceded in 2007, Bulgaria and Romania, are not afforded citizenship rights in any of the wealthier countries, though we are in theirs.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Spion
I hear ya
Or rather, no wonder 'the movement' is fucked when dinosaurs like you can do nothing but chuck labels at people and make appeals to a movement without even knowing if that frame of reference is relevant to themZenie, are you a Blairite or a Tory, no wonder the movement is fucked with comments like that, Thatchers Children indeed
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
I tell you this, I'd rather be on the fucking rock than pick veg, and I've done some proper shitty jobs in my time.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
But that is your choice. I assume you're not complaining that you are "on the rock" because all those nasty immigrants are taking the jobs away from you....
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I wouldn't hesitate if I lost my present job.
I love vegetables and gardening and need to shed 30 pounds or so.
I'm currently paid something like £12 an hour for a job with too much sitting down.
And maybe too "safe" a job too - 26 years ....
happie chappie
Well-Known Member
Well, I did quite enjoy the programme - it did raise some interesting issues. I have lived in and around Peterborough for the past 20 years or so. I know the areas where the documentary was largely shot very well - mostly in Millfield, which has been a traditional area where immigrants to the city have settled over the years.
Most people I know in the area do accept that immigration has been in the past, and still is, good for Peterborough. The main concern is that voiced by Cllr Swift, the former mayor, and leader of the council. It's the pace and extent of change, rather than the change itself, that can be problematic.
Most of the recent round of EU immigration was not anticipated by, nor budgeted for, by central government, leaving the local services to authority to struggle.
While it's true that additional funding is needed, you can't just conjure up school places, hospitals etc overnight. They have to be planned, sometimes years ahead. That's why population growth studies and the like are carried out - so that local services can be provided in the right areas, at the right time.
The real problem is that the government was either unwilling or unable to put an accurate figure on the number of EU migrants, and plan accordingly.
Happie Chappie
Most people I know in the area do accept that immigration has been in the past, and still is, good for Peterborough. The main concern is that voiced by Cllr Swift, the former mayor, and leader of the council. It's the pace and extent of change, rather than the change itself, that can be problematic.
Most of the recent round of EU immigration was not anticipated by, nor budgeted for, by central government, leaving the local services to authority to struggle.
While it's true that additional funding is needed, you can't just conjure up school places, hospitals etc overnight. They have to be planned, sometimes years ahead. That's why population growth studies and the like are carried out - so that local services can be provided in the right areas, at the right time.
The real problem is that the government was either unwilling or unable to put an accurate figure on the number of EU migrants, and plan accordingly.
Happie Chappie
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
sorry but can't agree with you on this. i'm just watching this prog on catch-up tv and they're a bunch of lazy fucks, the young english men featured. i picked cabbages in snow-covered fields for £2p/h, my fingers went blue. i picked potatoes for £2.50p/h and saw people being physically sick cos it was such hard work. but if you want to support yourself and make some cash, then you do what you need to.
_angel_
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what a great life!
Spion
I hear ya
Do you think the BBC found a load of people outside the jobcentre who were prepared to do the work the EEuropeans were doing but they didn't show them on the programme?Are you suggesting they had an agenda? Never!
Spion
I hear ya
That's clearly in the past. These guys picking squash were earning £2,000 a month, admittedly for long hours and six days a week but that kind of money can get one's head above water and maybe lead to the next, better job/place to live
