White North American Male Novelists

[foo]

not sure if that follows though. I'm going to die before I read a fraction of the books I want to. I'm going to miss out on thousands of great books by male and female authors. Since I'm not going to read them all, it makes sense to read the ones I'm enjoying. Which - by accident, not design - is predominantly the ones i've described.

I think Pie Face would probably take umbrage as well - she's one of the best read people I know, studied literature for years, knows her stuff. She reads women, but she reads men more. Do you think she's missing out? Or just making a choice in the face of impossible odds?

oh dear, i didn't mean you or PieEye to 'take umbrage' i know how touchy you are so i was deliberately trying not to get you going - but still somehow trying to post my opinion. which still stands by the way.

anyway, how 'bout you answer soj's question eh.

 

[sojourner]

anyway, how 'bout you answer soj's question eh.

He mustn't have seen it foo

Or the second or third times I've asked about it

 

[Barking_Mad]

white russians here.

 

[Dillinger4]

white russians here.

My favorite is Mikael Lermontov.

 

[Dubversion]

He mustn't have seen it foo

Or the second or third times I've asked about it

i do actually do other things than post on urban, ffs

i'll come back to it, in a william of walworth style.

 

[Shandril19]

Very little of what I've read this year has been White North American Male novelists.

Lots of Indian/MiddleEastern/Asian women authors... some white North american Females (but would agree this is largely in genre fiction), and some men from all over.

I'm curious now to look at my book journal when I get home and see what I have read by white north american male authors, or even female/male authors in general. I think I'm probably higher on the female authors.

 

[Shandril19]

i'll come back to it, in a william of walworth style.

 

[sojourner]

i do actually do other things than post on urban, ffs

i'll come back to it, in a william of walworth style.

You managed to reply to foo, twice

I'm not sure if I should be jealous, or smug that you can't answer a simple query. S'not a big thing

 

[sojourner]

Okay, I've really lost patience now. I've not been online alllll day, and still nowt

Dub - you're a faker

 

[foo]

i was wondering about this too......

he's been posting merrily today it seems (just not on this thread) so he's not been too busy, oh no.

c'mon Dub, answer soj.

hmm, could it be that, for once, our Dubster....doesn't have an answer....!

 

[sojourner]

I wouldn't mind, but it was only a little question, about one remark. It's no biggie, I'm probably not even going to argue the point Just wanted to know, s'all

 

[Dirty Martini]

What's the question again?

 

[sojourner]

What's the question again?

See posts 68 and 77

 

[Dubversion]

jesus. i forgot about it

ok - by 'under-represented', it just seems to me that i just don't HEAR about female writers as much, be it on TV or Radio 4 or in mags. It's not a criticism in ANY sense of the writers, but of how they're portrayed. If there are women writers out there I'd like to read, why don't i hear about them as often as I hear about Updike or Philip Roth or Will Self or whatever?

and of course, i know SOME of the answers to that - just societal issues - but maybe there's more to it.

happy now?

 

[sojourner]

jesus. i forgot about it

ok - by 'under-represented', it just seems to me that i just don't HEAR about female writers as much, be it on TV or Radio 4 or in mags. It's not a criticism in ANY sense of the writers, but of how they're portrayed. If there are women writers out there I'd like to read, why don't i hear about them as often as I hear about Updike or Philip Roth or Will Self or whatever?

and of course, i know SOME of the answers to that - just societal issues - but maybe there's more to it.

happy now?

Oh - finally

So, by saying they don't get more recognition generally, you meant that YOU don't hear about them? Through the avenues that you explore?

I didn't think it was a criticism, I was just interested in how you reached that opinion.

I'm trying to think about how I know about my fave female writers, and although quite a few were via a lit degree, I also look out in, say, the Guardian, and just by browsing in book shops. And talking to friends, male and female. Or by browsing online - checking out well-known publishers of female writers, (virago for instance), link to link to link, etc. I don't watch any lit shows on tv, or hear any on R4, and don't read any mags that contain anything other than music stuff. So - I have totally different sources for hearing about writers than you do, it appears.

I would therefore recommend you expand your reading sources I'm not sure that societal issues come into it at all, not in this day and age.

 

[sojourner]

Here you go Dub

http://www.virago.co.uk/author_resu...profile&SORT=author_id&TAG=&CID=&PGE=&LANG=EN

 

[Dubversion]

that's a big list of Virago writers - some i've heard of, a couple i've read.

that's not helping, is it?

 

[sojourner]

that's a big list of Virago writers - some i've heard of, a couple i've read.

that's not helping, is it?

Yeh, have you tried clicking on the links at all? It gives you links to their books, with descriptions, and reviews, and all manner of interesting information

If you wanted an intro to female writers, you couldn't get much better



Jeez...some people

 

[quimcunx]

I wouldn't say it dominates but if you're going to split things between male/female, american/british/rest of world, white english speaking/ black english speaking/ asian english speaking/foreign translations then white male american would probably be over represented. Probably. I'd have to check. But then I am a woman and therefore more likely to read books by women, while, believe it or not, not reading any 'chicklit' or bloke lit.