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White Democrats not voting for Obama

The Bush tax cuts were excellent, he is a free trader and welcomes capital from around the world. He saw through the Dubai ports debacle. The attack on the the Taliban and Al Quead post 9-11 was well run. The response to NK has been top notch (geting China to play along). Those are some good points.

Overall I think history will treat him well.
.....Only if it's Republican verbal-History. :rolleyes:
 
.....Only if it's Republican verbal-History. :rolleyes:

"Bush does not like Abraham Lincoln because Lincoln abolished slavery. Bush wants to enslave every country. He apprehends that every free country is a danger for America. In order to ensure America’s survival, Iran and North Korea must be crippled, handcuffed and imprisoned".

This is from the article you posted, care to expand on it, do you agree with it?

Do you want to talk about different ways the international community should deal with Iran and North Korea?

Can you put it in your own words?
 
I think Hillary will win it too. I think race does play some part no matter what people say. I think at the moment the only black person in the US that could win it all is Powell. Just the fact that the racial divide in SC is being reported over and over will impact Obama. If white voters start to see him as the black man's candidate it will push enough to go with Clinton. What doesn't help Obama was that in SC his campaign strategy was reversed and he was playing heavy on the race issue according to Juan Williams.

I agree that if you replaced Obama with Colin Powell, there just might have been a black man in the white house.
 
What mears forgot to add...

The Bush tax cuts were excellent...

...because they helped people like me to become even wealthier at the expense of the most disenfranchised and disadvantaged in our society. :D
 
I liked Fred But He couldnt raise enough money.
The issues with deciding a new president are incredibly complex and incredibly simple at the same time. Hillery is way to phoney and she just isnt Qualified But she is well connected.
Obama is just too different, look, he is a muslim guy a muslim black guy a muslim black liberal guy named Barak Hussaien Obama.....
The rebublicans havent sorted themselves out yet either the biggest problem we face is so many influences are being effectively brought to bear on both sides that it dismays just about everyone.
The republicans that like Mc Cain cant stand Huckabee, the Hucabee suporters cant stand Romney, the ron paul supporters cant stand anyone the lack of unity in the country is our greatest weakness.
Reguardless of who gets elected it wont be as bad/good as everyone thinks it is going to be.
 
Obama is just too different, look, he is a muslim guy a muslim black guy a muslim black liberal guy named Barak Hussaien Obama...

Hey, heap cliché upon cliché, why don't you? What about getting a couple of racist quips in for good measure? I'll bet you wouldn't even pick him up in your cab....or any other well dressed black man for that matter.

Obama isn't Muslim, you racist thug.
 
"Do you want to talk about different ways the international community should deal with Iran and North Korea?

Can you put it in your own words?

Dont want to get ino the the minutae of the discussion here as it seem to chugging along quite nicely, but the DPRK & Iran have a peculair special resonance with the US for obvious reasons, so its not at all easy to wade through the anatagnostic rhetoric from both sides and work out the true risks of these places.
 
Hey, heap cliché upon cliché, why don't you? What about getting a couple of racist quips in for good measure? I'll bet you wouldn't even pick him up in your cab....or any other well dressed black man for that matter.

Obama isn't Muslim, you racist thug.

No one believes that Nino, it is a trust issue a big trust issue we are at WAR and so many dont want to fight it let alone Win it This is what the enemy is counting on.
when the real debates begine the fur will fly.
but hey, everyone in America has a constitutional Right to be a stupid Idiot.
you have the same problem in England???
the Muslim, American War will be the defining conflict in the upcoming century.
 
Why do you think that is? I mean why is there so much disunity even inter-party disunity?

I wonder if there's any more inter party disunity than there ever was, or if it's just getting more airplay these days. More stuff got done in the backroom before, so that they could emerge smiling, united, with the bodies and the bloody knives left back behind closed doors.
 
No one believes that Nino, it is a trust issue a big trust issue we are at WAR and so many dont want to fight it let alone Win it This is what the enemy is counting on.
when the real debates begine the fur will fly.
but hey, everyone in America has a constitutional Right to be a stupid Idiot.
you have the same problem in England???
the Muslim, American War will be the defining conflict in the upcoming century.

"No one"? You live in a fantasy world, Rent Boy. You're just a nasty racist cunt with the brain of a dry saltine cracker.

You didn't deal with my point that Obama isn't Muslim but instead, resorted to the same auld clichés about "war". I see that you still have trouble with the use of upper and lower cases and punctuation.
 
Good old USA. Skin colour will be the deciding factor.:)

I was watching New York 1 (local TV) the other day and there was a call-in program during which a woman on the Upper West Side (traditionally liberal, full o' Dems) called in and starting blathering on inanely about Clinton and Obama. The number one gem in her ramblings was, "I'm going to vote for Hillary because, well, I know it might not be politically correct to say, but I just don't think this country is ready for a black president."

:mad::mad::mad:

The interviewer replied, "But you think the country is ready for a female president?"

The caller had, of course, no real answer. But her statement is such unfathomable, self-justifying, cyclical bullshit: "We're not ready to stop being racist because we're not ready to stop being racist."

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In other, better news: Obama has taken the lead in the primaries.
 
Obama is just too different, look, he is a muslim guy a muslim black guy a muslim black liberal guy named Barak Hussaien Obama.....
I dont hold Nino insulting you- I dont know anything about you or your politics- I havent read through your posts,
but that the what you've said above is falacious and lazy minded.

Do better.
 
Obama is just too different, look, he is a muslim guy a muslim black guy a muslim black liberal guy named Barak Hussaien Obama.....

By all means, don't let the facts get in your way.

(He's a longtime member of the Church of Christ: http://pewforum.org/religion08/profile.php?CandidateID=4)

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And another thing. He's not black. He's half white and half black. I realize that many white folks don't claim halfbreeds, but thats you're problem.
 
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And another thing. He's not black. He's half white and half black. I realize that many white folks don't claim halfbreeds, but thats you're problem.
The 'One Drop' Rule is ingrained. But I guess if you're too dark to Pass, then black you are. ;)
The earliest law regarding racial membership was passed in 1705 Virginia. It decreed that you were Black if you had one or more Black great-grandparents. If you had less than 1/8 Black blood you were White
 
Stupid law, stupid system, stupid word.
Like 'Black' is an infectious disease or some shit :mad:
 
Stupid law, stupid system, stupid word.
Like 'Black' is an infectious disease or some shit :mad:

I keep repeating the mantra:

We're making progress.
We're making progress.

<sigh>

What frustrates me is the willfull ignorance involved. I dont' care if someone wants to vote Republican. Just find out what the facts are first, instead of relying on suspicious emails floating around about a candidate's relgion.

(BTW, it is sexually transmitted. ;) :p)
 
Like its a pollutant or contaminant!

Did you ever see the Channel 4 show which surveyed the DNA Ancestry of several English nationalists? E2A- I think it was called 100% English?

There was joy unbound when 1 was found to come from the Caucasus, and fucking despair when the others found their ancient ancestry had been traced to the Far East or Africa! lol!

One BNP woman refuted the results and went totally wappy, claiming it was a Ch4 trick- no way were her ancestors from Africa.
Never mind black great grandparents- her fear of not being 100% English meant she wouldnt accept that 20+ generations back, her ancestors may have eaten coconuts!
 
LMFAO! Just looked the show up!
I had forgotten Gary Bushell was tested in the show. He was all fake smiley when it turned out his great great great great granny had a top sense of rhythm.

Apparently after the show he questioned the methods used and the outcome- he must have been so upset he went looking for empirical data from geneticists!
 
By all means, don't let the facts get in your way.

(He's a longtime member of the Church of Christ: http://pewforum.org/religion08/profile.php?CandidateID=4)

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And another thing. He's not black. He's half white and half black. I realize that many white folks don't claim halfbreeds, but thats you're problem.
To be fair many blacks don't claim them either. I have a new niece that's half black and half white so I expect to see this thing up close as she grows up.
 
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