Which website creation package is standard these days?
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untethered
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Haha I'm reading the agile book atm.
Second edition rather than the first, I hope. Even though 2ed is out of date now, too.
3ed is out very soon. You can buy it as a PDF "beta book" already.
untethered
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True, and this is a crucial point that's often overlooked among discussions about tools and techniques.
Nonetheless you do also need the skills to realise your designs, whether they're good or bad. Almost by definition, beginners start out producing poor work (though often useful work of which they're reasonably very proud) and get better as their skills and design sense improve.
zenie
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Oh fucks sake I don't know
Thankyou I'll have a look later, it was linked to on the page you linked to though. It's only about a year old book.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
oh noooo graphic designer!!!
thanx, i didn't know about ms expression. i'll have to check it out and see if its more cost-effective than DW
thanx, i didn't know about ms expression. i'll have to check it out and see if its more cost-effective than DW
Don't Macromedia products do a 30day free trial before you have to pay? They used to anyway. Im outta touch. If so go for Dreamweaver as it appears to be industry standard and would be useful to know.
It depends on the website you're is trying to make. If its a small static site (pages of text and images that dont need updating much) then one of the wysiwig packages (dreamweaver etc) is ok. Otherwise there's no escaping writing raw html/css and probably some server code (php, ruby etc).
Your best bet is probably to get a copy of something like wordpress running on his computer and try editing the code in a text editor with code highlighting (like notepad ++ on windows or textmate on a mac).
Your best bet is probably to get a copy of something like wordpress running on his computer and try editing the code in a text editor with code highlighting (like notepad ++ on windows or textmate on a mac).
untethered
For industry & decency
kained&able
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composer was shit when i used it like 7 years ago.
dave
dave
Well, it's all solving different kind of problems related to design. Some of it though is to do with human aesthetics or human-computer interaction, some of it is much more abstractly related to the design of systems of abstract data structures and actions performed on them. I am crap at the first and good at the second, so certainly have a healthy respect for people who can do the first part really well. Who are few and far between, IME...
Yeah I'm not sure I would there is a genuinely easy way to do it, not if you want to do something of a reasonable level of complexity anyway. It's a tricky thing 'cos you can do web development in very high-level languages these days, and I think sometimes those things suffer (particularly in terms of general comprehensibility) from being left in the hands of quite a lot of people who started in much lower-level environments and haven't fully adapted their techniques and approaches to a high-level way of thinking.
That said, you can't remain completely ignorant of the low-level side of things or sooner or later you'll be staring down the barrel of a problem that you just can't fix. I find it very tricky for this reason to advise people confidently about 'where to start' and what course to follow in up-geeking themselves to hardcore development.
Ruby is pretty cool and worth persisting with, but it's probably still moderately immature as a technology, and anyone who thinks it's really easy is either a genius or missing something IMHO.
yes that it what it is...may only need updating once or twice per year.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Isn't that the one that is now integrated into Firefox, or is it graphics rather than text-based?
I've got a few fairly simple pages I want to put up but at the moment am battling against the !&1 editing package. I'm actually thinking of just doing them in Word and then using an HTML cleaner to strip all the crap out.
Is there a free program that is like dreamweaver by the way?
untethered
For industry & decency
Ruby is pretty cool and worth persisting with, but it's probably still moderately immature as a technology, and anyone who thinks it's really easy is either a genius or missing something IMHO.
Ruby the language has been around since 1993 so I'd say it's pretty mature by now. It's probably been around far longer than most people here have been programming.
Rails the framework goes back to 2004. It's on version 2.1 By framework standards, that's also quite mature.
There are other frameworks for Rails, most notably Merb which has recently hit 1.0.
"Easy" is relative. In most cases it's easier than writing laborious SQL and wrestling with idiosyncratic application structure designs for every application. Its overhead is really only justified in mid-sized to large applications.
If you're writing something smaller, try a microframework like Sinatra.
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