Which webmail has the simplest layout?

[boskysquelch]

good.

btw you don't win...you jus obviously don't understand, but there is plenty of explanation on the Net & even in the Ether (Radio 4 have had a lack lustere bang-on about such things over the last month or so... the US Government is announcing biggies..and the UK will follow drekklly), explaining why you should seriously consider what you are doing.

I'm confident that in time the dross will drop down to the bottom-feeders and they'll get it.

 

[cybertect]

I just tried it and Yahoo! Mail craps out with lynx (v2.8.7) despite their claim that 'Classic' Y! mail should work with a screen reader.

Dunno about gmail. I don't have an account.

 

[weltweit]

good.

btw you don't win...you jus obviously don't understand, but there is plenty of explanation on the Net & even in the Ether (Radio 4 have had a lack lustere bang-on about such things over the last month or so... the US Government is announcing biggies..and the UK will follow drekklly), explaining why you should seriously consider what you are doing.

I'm confident that in time the dross will drop down to the bottom-feeders and they'll get it.

Ok, but what am I supposed to do? I have an old computer and old software and no money at the moment to upgrade.

 

[weltweit]

I installed opera 7 but it reported problems with something like xmllibraries and crashed.

I then downloaded opera 606, which runs fine, but that seems only a shade better than my Ie5.5.

Need to do something as monster.com has taken to being impossible for me to log in now. For the time being I will have to use someone elses puter for that!

I just managed to get Opera 7.10 to run and checked out monster.com's home page again. Its still a mess and I can't log in.

Going to try on a pals computer tommorow, they have Konquerer as their browser, and Iceweasel.

 

[Silva]

are "mobile" versions accessible from regular browsers? They might be worth checking out, even if they are a bit less usable...

 

[boskysquelch]

Ok, but what am I supposed to do? I have an old computer and old software and no money at the moment to upgrade.

you can either do the following on dual boot, LiveCD or even via a USB key...so you can retain the 98ME & progs you hold so dear...and yet experience something of the C21st.

http://www.xubuntu.org/

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu

or http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

http://www.puppylinux.org/index.php?q=user/viewpage.php&page_id=1

OR

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal#barebones

seriously dood... I am where you are on the poverty versus kit to hand plus age etc...and it was why I looked at Linux to start with...most of my hardware is either from dustbins, whingeing at peeps using boxes as coffee tables, Freecyle, charideeeee...if you familiarise yerself with Linux (as it stands,,,NOW,,,it's comparable to Windows easy) you can get pretty much anything you want out of the minimum outlay....interms of both expense and hardware to do shizzle on.


*even tonight I rebuilt a box I found in a skip...offered to rebuild for the owner...they said nah got a new one on the insurance...so I put Linux on it and it's been used by a couple of families who have Windows only experience...over the last few months... and they've been gobsmacked how quickly they and their kids found ways of doing the stuff they needed/wanted to do after having been irky at knowing how much they'd have to spend to "get with the program" in the near future.

I download the ISO...burnt it to cd...booted the skip PC..interrupted the boot...stuck the ISOcd in the drive...rebooted...told it to do a New Install> Completely overwrite previous installation> English>Time>blah blahblah> that took 15mins.

Left it...went to the beach...made some phonecalls...came back 20 mins later...removed disc...rebooted...stuck in an old(5 years) Freeserve wireless dongle in a USB slot...on the Net in less than a minute...Update/Upgrade/Download Media Shizzle I like to use...Ubuntu-Tweak System to remove progs I don't use to free up space. Transfer 20 gigs of films & Music I want to do from an external usb hd...another max of 20 mins.

60 mins of my life wasted plus cost?

Emachine(from skip) + 120gig drive(skipped 5 years ago...brand new...Luser user wanted hard drive replaced because they thought iTunes was viral.. I did what I was told... I put the 250gig drive it had into another monster box I have...which I got from a mate who was emptying his bedroom etc etc etc) + 1/2 gig of ram which was in box already...Monitor I found in a wheelie bin 6 years ago...usb-keyboard(ponced off a mate who got it thrown in a bare-bones build) + Logitec-usb wireless mouse (I bought 6 years back for £35).

I reckon cost me less than a tenner.

Seriously I aren't well geeky... but I am well tight! And WANT to do things I want to do with the minimum amount of cost and there is honestly nothing yet I haven't been able to do on a Linux box that I used to do in Windows...admittedly it hasn't always been so...but it really is vastly improved than it was....honenestly_honestly.


*I'll save the 15 year old Compaq, 2-gig/64mb laptop xcfe pci-wifi enabled saved from a compost heap,story for another time.

 

[weltweit]

Ok, I think I see what you are saying. Linux machines don't have to be expensive!

I just got back from trying to access monster.com on a linux machine (debian) and with a browser called Konquerer. It rendered the page better than my IE5.5 and better than my Opera 7.10 but I still could not log in.

I don't know what monster have done with their website but it sure aint "accessible".

 

[Badgers]

yeah, that works
you can also leave the dots out and they still get there

so

Mr.John.j.smiff@googlemail = [email protected]

odd innit

I have learnded summat new

 

[boskysquelch]

I don't know what monster have done with their website but it sure aint "accessible".

more likely the machine you we're attempting to view it on was either not upto date Java wise or had filters set to deny certain hierachies of Javaness that you would have had to decided to apply at will. eg Adblock, NoScripts sortof thang.... mostly likely is that Konqueror and the flavour distro you were using were not fully functional to your requirements ie to view monster.com at that time.

monster.com does have a certain professional(sic) reputation...I don't "think" they would make any sort/part of their site intentionally or unintentionally inaccessible per se.

Linux machines don't have to be expensive!

ish...but more to the point...don't use a lack of monies or equipment to deny yerself access or experience.... if you can run 98ME you can run a commonplace flavour of a Linux distro with equal or possibly better functionality, & consequently more bang fer yer buck IME.

 

[weltweit]

... monster.com does have a certain professional(sic) reputation...I don't "think" they would make any sort/part of their site intentionally or unintentionally inaccessible per se.
...

Just back from my local library's computers, XP & IE7, nice to be on a fast PC for a change. I could log into monster ok and do most of what I wanted to do. Could not upload a new CV, but perhaps that is more to do with the setup of the libraries PC than monster.

 

[fen_boy]

I have learnded summat new

Also,

[email protected] would also work.

It ignores everything after the '+' and before the '@'

That's useful if you fill in forms; you can put the name of the website on which you're filling in the form after the '+' - [email protected], for example - in this way you'll know if a particular website has sold your email to spammers or you can apply filters based on it.

 

[weltweit]

Just back from my local library's computers, XP & IE7, nice to be on a fast PC for a change. I could log into monster ok and do most of what I wanted to do. Could not upload a new CV, but perhaps that is more to do with the setup of the libraries PC than monster.

re monster.com

Just found out that my ex's linux machine also has a browser called iceweasel, and iceweasel can access monster.com almost as well as IE7. It must be more up to date than konqueror.

 

[weltweit]

... That's useful if you fill in forms; you can put the name of the website on which you're filling in the form after the '+' - [email protected], for example - in this way you'll know if a particular website has sold your email to spammers or you can apply filters based on it.

I do that with my own domain ..

eg: urban75 at mydomain.com

A surprising number of organisations have leaked/sold my email, I get spam on quite a lot of them now.

 

[pogofish]

A colleague is on clara.net and her webmail interface seems to be very creditably simple.

She was also still on dialup till just a few months ago when the broadband reached her, so I presume it was chosen from genuine need?

 

[Pingu]

you could also look at google chrome as a browser

 

[weltweit]

you could also look at google chrome as a browser

For Windows Vista/XP SP2

(I have Win98ME)

 

[weltweit]

I am liking gmail, simple and fast.

One concern is how I am paying for it as I am yet to see a single advert?

 

[jæd]

re monster.com

Just found out that my ex's linux machine also has a browser called iceweasel, and iceweasel can access monster.com almost as well as IE7. It must be more up to date than konqueror.

IceWeasel is Firefox, but without the Firefox branding...

 

[weltweit]

IceWeasel is Firefox, but without the Firefox branding...

Yes, a friend told me that yesterday. I don't understand why they did not still call the linux version Firefox. Does not make sense to me, I mean who has heard of Iceweasel?

I suppose I could not run Firefox on my Win98ME machine?

 

[jæd]

Yes, a friend told me that yesterday. I don't understand why they did not still call the linux version Firefox. Does not make sense to me, I mean who has heard of Iceweasel?

I suppose I could not run Firefox on my Win98ME machine?

Its called IceWeasel on Debian distributions of Linux since Debian aims to only have free software. The "Firefox" brand is owned (ie copyrighted) by Mozilla Corp and thus isn't 100% "free". The IceWeasel branding on the other hand is in the public-domain and thus free.

But you can always download and install Firefox on Linux computers, anyhow...

IIRC Firefox 2 is the last version that ran on Win98.

 

[Pingu]

For Windows Vista/XP SP2

(I have Win98ME)

ME was an abortion that crawled its way out of the bucket

 

[weltweit]

Its called IceWeasel on Debian distributions of Linux since Debian aims to only have free software. The "Firefox" brand is owned (ie copyrighted) by Mozilla Corp and thus isn't 100% "free". The IceWeasel branding on the other hand is in the public-domain and thus free.

But you can always download and install Firefox on Linux computers, anyhow...

IIRC Firefox 2 is the last version that ran on Win98.

Thanks jaed..

Do you know what version of IE Firefox 2 is like? I seem to need an equivalent of IE7 to access the sites I am interested in.

Opera v7.10 is not good enough for example.

 

[Pingu]

i think that at some point in the near future you are going to have to accept that your PC is outdated btw.

 

[jæd]

Thanks jaed..

Do you know what version of IE Firefox 2 is like? I seem to need an equivalent of IE7 to access the sites I am interested in.

Opera v7.10 is not good enough for example.

Which sites...? I suspect you could use most sites with Firefox 2. And if you use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 this would get you in any that block "old" browsers...

 

[jæd]

i think that at some point in the near future you are going to have to accept that your PC is outdated btw.

Yep...

 

[weltweit]

Which sites...? I suspect you could use most sites with Firefox 2. And if you use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 this would get you in any that block "old" browsers...

At the moment the site that caused the most problem was monster.com but I also have access issues with Yahoo though I hardly use it.


eta: I can access monster.com in IE7 in my local library and on the debian.linux Iceweasel but not on my own old machine.

 

[weltweit]

i think that at some point in the near future you are going to have to accept that your PC is outdated btw.

Yes, I think you are probably right ..

A pal has offered that he might be able to find another hard disk and we could make it a dual boot ME & debian machine.

I am not sure. The issue for me is that I have quite a lot of old but good windows software on this machine which I want to continue to be able to use.