Which program do you hate using the most?

[8ball]

Import Excel stuff to SAS.

Run stats.

Export back to Excel.

Make graph.

That's how you make decent-looking graphs in SAS.

 

[19sixtysix]

Most of the custom one size fits no-one software supposedly written for by my company.
It is guaranteed not to do anything useful.

Excel cause does some things wrong in a mathematical sense.
All the microsoft products cause they never print like the screen.

Oh and visio since microsoft bought it.

 

[editor]

anyone said Windows?

No, probably because it's an operating system, not a program.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

A university. Same with PROLOG. Real people don't use it.

Yeah, but imagine for a moment IBM had based Websphere on LISP instead of Java, which they could just as easily have done if they'd had any humanity.

I wouldn't have been significantly more inefficient after all. Not with modern implementations, especially with suitable hardware support.

 

[boohoo]

fucking SAP, SAPPY fucking SAP SAP!

oh yes... SAP... the most anal system ever.

 

[JohnnyOrange]

I find the graphs ok. Much less of a faff to get a decent-looking graph than using SAS, for example.

I used to love SAS to death - mostly for editing files though, not for what it was created for.

Can I out-trump everyone by saying I work with COBOL and JCL?

You lot have it easy...

 

[Mungy]

cubase cos it keeps dropping midi data while i'm doing stuff. not surprised like, my system is hardly sleek, it being full of mostly unused stuff and 2 biggish usb drives.

 

[salem]

I quite like excel because of it's adaptability. It might not be the best programme for a lot of it's uses but the fact that it can turn it's hand to lots of different things gives it credit in my book

I hate sage line 50 with a passion. It has a crappy templating and reports system. Ignores all convention with things like tabbing, double clicking. Even within its self. You can copy the address field with CTRL + C but not the postcode field. Bloody hate it

 

[twistedAM]

To all those Word and Powerpoint haters, have you tried Office 2007? Personally I think it's fucking superb.

I've got Office 2008 (for Mac). Crashes rather frequently and the dumbass Microsoft update and patches don't download properly half the time.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

No, probably because it's an operating system, not a program.

And what is an operating system, if not a collection of programmes that are supposed to run together and make your computer work?

 

[Badgers]

Powerpoint and Word
These are female programs, therefore illogical in their workings.

Excel and Access are fine
These are male programs, therefore logical in their workings.


I await the slating

 

[g force]

To all those Word and Powerpoint haters, have you tried Office 2007? Personally I think it's fucking superb.

Yes...and it's even worse. Word is lovely but PPT is a pile of crap with it lacks of backwards compatability for key presentation elements like embedded video, pictures, animation etc

 

[tarannau]

I don't mind reliable old Excel, but Word 2007 is a bit of an unnecessary faff to me, and Powerpoint's as dull and prescriptive as it always been - too many presentations look the same and immediately provoke Powerpoint boredom. Hate working in it - it's a dog that levels everything into reassuring dullness

To be honest, I can't say much for the competition either. Open Office ain't that much fun to use and Apple's iwork equivalents were lightweight (Pages and Numbers) but apparently have improved. The one revelation is Keynote - presentation software that knocks 7 bells out of Powerpoint and just looks immeasurably better.

Outside of that, I can't say I ever particularly enjoyed working with Cognos software (Impromptu, PowerPlay), but even they were fun compared to SPSS and early versions of Crystal reports

 

[Boycey]

cybertill

 

[gnoriac]

Haven't touched Outlook Express in years, but it'd have to be the all-time stinker for anyone that's tried to use it's import/export stuff.

Does it still let worms with the most primitive VB scripting raid your address book?

 

[Badgers]

Haven't touched Outlook Express in years

It is rubbish

 

[ChrisFilter]

I've got Office 2008 (for Mac). Crashes rather frequently and the dumbass Microsoft update and patches don't download properly half the time.

Your fault for using a Mac. Microsoft's fault for releasing a sub-par version of Office for Mac.

 

[Badgers]

vBulletin

 

[ChrisFilter]

I don't mind reliable old Excel, but Word 2007 is a bit of an unnecessary faff to me, and Powerpoint's as dull and prescriptive as it always been - too many presentations look the same and immediately provoke Powerpoint boredom. Hate working in it - it's a dog that levels everything into reassuring dullness

At a basic level. When you've got to grips with it it's actually pretty expansive. I can do some pretty detailed layouts in it. It's fucking good for experimenting with web layouts n' all.

 

[fen_boy]

The Oracle based purchasing system at work is utter shit.

Installshield Multiplatform IDE is toss and Installshield 12 for Windows IDE is also toss - though it's hamstrung by the design of MSI and the Windows Installer in general which is the biggest pile of wank ever created.

 

[19sixtysix]

I mention Excel again because it was written by a mathematical illiterate.
Beware round up and round down which round down and round up if there is a negative number present instead of being called round away from zero or round towards zero.

 

[netbob]

firefox at the moment, is seems to crash about 4 times a day

 

[ruffneck23]

oooh real player!

o still have a few episodes of southpark i cant find in a decent format so have to resort to that pile of toss.


dave

have tyou tried vlc media player ? free download that plays everythnig i chuck at it.

As for worst program , more the whole bloody operating system shite that is vista 64bit

 

[gnoriac]

oooh real player!

Good call, renders poorly and is constantly trying to call home to get you to look at a pile of old toss. I'd forgotten all about it.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Navision Financials when submitting expenses at work. So un intuitive. Fuck the fuck off-

 

[tarannau]

At a basic level. When you've got to grips with it it's actually pretty expansive. I can do some pretty detailed layouts in it. It's fucking good for experimenting with web layouts n' all.

Oh come on. Why? You work in marketing - get the studio/agency to knock something immeasurably better up, or get onto CS yourself if they're not available.

I used to spend most of my marketing life (brand manager side) working and presenting in Powerpoint to various franchises, agents and offices- I've grown to dislike that program, its restrictions and 'sameness' of its output. It's not terrible for basic level stuff, but there's way I'd use if for more major work to a more discerning (design) clientele.

 

[g force]

Today's hate is Lotus Notes...who oh why can't we use Outlook!!!

 

[Biddlybee]

Word... especially when people expect you to use it for things that should be done in another programme.

 

[fen_boy]

Today's hate is Lotus Notes...who oh why can't we use Outlook!!!

I hate Outlook more than Lotus Notes.

 

[stowpirate]

Anything by Microsoft or Mac. If you have to pay for it I hate it