Which political thinkers Rock your Boat?

[yield]

Which political philosophers do you like reading butchersapron?

 

[The Black Hand]

Blair.



















AKA Robert Tressell.

Very good.

 

[danny la rouge]

I hate Foucault and Lyotard. Really hate them.

 

[The Black Hand]

I hate Foucault and Lyotard. Really hate them.

Too clever?

 

[Meltingpot]

Jeremy Clarkson, David Icke

Seriously, John Ralston Saul. Maybe Ken Wilber as well if he qualifies as a political thinker.

 

[butchersapron]

Which political philosophers do you like reading butchersapron?

Don't really read political philosophers but i do like Toni Negri, Giovanni Arrighi, Beverly Silver, Ellen Meiksins Wood, David Harvey, Nitzan and Bichler, Werner Bonefld, Peter Burnham, John Holloway, Silvia Federici, Massimo de angelis - that type of thang.

 

[danny la rouge]

Too clever?

Too full of shit. I hate all that PoMo nonsense. Heaps of words to say very little.

 

[audiotech]

Kollontai
Gramsci
Hobsbawm
Andre' Gortz
Braverman
Mandel
Engels
Attica

 

[butchersapron]

Marks
engles
lennon

All the greats.

 

[audiotech]

 

[mk12]

Bookchin.

Does Harry Cleaver count; he's pretty old, too.

cleaver most defintiely counts

 

[danny la rouge]

cleaver most defintiely counts

But he's like Kropotkin.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

These all made an impact on me at one time or another (there are lots more but these spring easily to mind):

Michel Foucault
Karl Marx
E P Thompson
Raymond Williams
David Harvey
Stuart Hall
Ellen Meiksins Wood
Thomas Moore
George Orwell
Colin Ward

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[mk12]

Stuart Hall

 

[butchersapron]

You're too young for that - except the royal one.

 

[mk12]

I have only heard of him through his football commentary. "Leicester Fosse"

 

[The Black Hand]

Too full of shit. I hate all that PoMo nonsense. Heaps of words to say very little.

I must say that the critique of power Foucault has, "Discipline and Punish", is on the money a lot of the time. The disciplinary features of courts and power, and the similarities between prisons, factories, schools, hospitals etc is useful.

I think he describes what is really going on very well most of the time...

 

[butchersapron]

I have only heard of him through his football commentary. "Leicester Fosse"

(He doesn't watch the games, he just goes HA! HA! HA! when they cut to him then he says the score then he goes back to licking the chairmans arse. The only games he really watches are the man city one. Bit of a derail)

 

[mk12]

He's an idiot that bloke, but quite entertaining. Still not sure what his political views are though. I'll have to ask Louis to lend me his collected works.

 

[butchersapron]

He's an idiot that bloke, but quite entertaining. Still not sure what his political views are though. I'll have to ask Louis to lend me his collected works.

Good ideas on encoding/decoding the media's 'message'. i.e what we just did to his football reports.

 

[bluestreak]

Ed Balls.

Truly a genius.

 

[The Black Hand]

Those who haven't been mentioned yet

Ruggiero
Jock young
Zizek
John Lea
John Rule
Archer
Christopher Hill
Tony Smith
Ian Bone
Dave Douglass
Lucy Parsons
Sivanandan
Phil Scraton
James C Scott
Peter Linebaugh
Marcus Rediker
David jones
Eric Hobsbawn
George Rude
George Jackson
Angela Davis
Sun Tzu
Nechayev



And of course, the father of us all;

E.P. Thompson

 

[mk12]

Ian Bone is a "political thinker"?

 

[kropotkin]

I'd add
Loren Goldner (for making me think- he is around in London next week I think)
Giles Dauve


I agree with
Bookchin


Chomsky isn't really a political thinker (apart from Manufacturing Consent)
Debord and Vaneigem are windbags for poseurs to namedrop

 

[northernhord]

auld Castilles aint bad either for a Sociologist, if his main body of work was intended as a work of determinist interlinked Chronology that is

 

[northernhord]

I'd add
Loren Goldner (for making me think- he is around in London next week I think)
Giles Dauve


I agree with
Bookchin


Chomsky isn't really a political thinker (apart from Manufacturing Consent)
Debord and Vaneigem are windbags for poseurs to namedrop

Apart from his work in the lingual Domain I reckon Chomsy if very defo a Political thinker, have you seen his output?

 

[butchersapron]

auld Castilles aint bad either for a Sociologist, if his main body of work was intended as a work of determinist interlinked Chronology that is

I did his 3 volume thing, interesting things to say, but too much made up jargon.

 

[northernhord]

I did his 3 volume thing, interesting things to say, but too much made up jargon.

Yeah, he has something good to say but perhaps me be restircted by his funding criteria, or subject maybe

 

[revol68]

oh christ Attica likes Zizek.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Chomsky, Klein, Adam Curtis and Orwell would top my list.

Im off to Youtube some of the folk on this list I never heard of.

But no one seems to have mentioned Icke yet - that's a conspiracy if ever I saw one.