Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by BadlyDrawnGirl, Apr 6, 2007.
Wtf had you been eating? Cat food?
Some parts of Peckham are really quite nice. I lived their for over two years.
Has to be Woolwich and Thamesmead. Abbey Wood is also a bit of a dump.
Was down at Southmere lake recently and it far from looks like that picture in real life
The posh bit is very nice.
But it seems like all of Peckham's money got spent on that one small part.
So we have a street with a chocolatier, a deli, a couple of very East Dulwich-y pubs, and an expensive clothes boutique, while the rest of Peckham is still pretty deprived.
I grew up around these places. Eltham and Kidbrooke are hell as in they are sooooo dull but with an iffy edge.
My ex lived in Thamesmead and it (plus Abbey Wood) are really the most horrible places in the country imho.
So bleak and devoid of anything redeeming.
Even the Thamesmead lakes are horrible and they stink.
Plumstead is a lot better than it use to be.
Lewisham is alright.
Catford is a bit of a dull but busy nightmare.
I don't think its a problem with the design.
Just a lack of anything there like a highstreet, decent boozers, churches anything.
Also its not next to anything good.
You have to jump on a bus or train well out of there to get to anywhere OK.
Yeah, I used to live over that way. Of all Thamesmeads problems I think the fact its so cut off is the worst.
Yes. Its got shitty marsh land and a sewage works surrounding it, Abbey Wood and down the road Belvedere and Erith which don't have much going for them either.
There are one or two pubs there and I don't mind a roughish boozer for the odd pint but these are proper scary!
I never visited any Thamesmead ones; the pubs around Woolwich and Plumstead were bad enough...
Isn't that where Misfits is filmed as well?
For some reason Woolwich always reminds me of 80s Merthyr Tydfil, dunno why. Maybe it's cos The Elephant and Castle by the market was one of the few places in London that served Brains bitter.
Rough as feck pub that was tho.
I never went there, I do remember they refused to serve Orang Utan because he was a student
Right I am going to go to ride up to Thamesmead this weekend as it is only 7 miles away. I want to walk along where that famous bit in Clockwork Orange was filmed. Is it Southmere lake I am looking for?
i would like to know what criteria makes a part of london south-east? croydon, peckham and camberwell have been mentioned here, but i wouldn't call them south-east. i tend to think south east london starts at the top of the old kent road.
Anything SE, I reckon.
what does that mean though?
I thought you lived in an SE postcode?
postcodes aren't reliable though. chelsea and victoria have SW postcodes and they're not even in south london
also, kennington has an SE postcode!
They are south-west of Mount Pleasant sorting office though. I suppose if they had used 'south' Kennington would be it.
My other half lived in both Abbey Wood and Thamesmead before he joined me in Stockwell - I actually thought the former was worse as it entirely lacked any character at all - maybe that'll change with Crossrail I don't know. Woolwich and Plumstead are also grim, as is Erith. Not a fan of Eltham and Mottingham either. On the other hand, Deptford, Catford, New Cross, Forest Hill, Honor Oak and Sydenham all have their plus points, and I really like the area around Rotherhithe before he get to the souless 80s estates - I always think those areas round Surrey Quays are how Thatcher wanted us all to live, never anyone about despite being on the river, no shops or community, huge space for cars despite being close to central London - a Thamesmead for the affluent social climber. Croydon doesn't deserve (all) of the bad press it gets.
I don't know if Thamesmead was planned to be the home of commuting 'inner London key workers' - more usually called NHS cleaners/kitchen orderlies/etc - but there's a lot of that general dynamic around the place.
bromley's supposed to be pretty shit. a girl i used to know who lived in raynes park (sw london, anyway) said that the only thing to do in bromley was drink vodka.
Nerdy navigational knowledge acquired from despatch riding: Mount Pleasant's not the central point of London - that's always been Trafalgar Square. If you cross Southwark, Waterloo, Westminster, Lambeth or Vauxhall Bridge you're in SE1, and south east of Trafalgar Square. SW9 is an aberration - most of it, including Brixton, is south of SE1 and SE11 and south east of Trafalgar Square. If there were a boundary between SE and SW London it would pretty much run through Clapham North tube.
Traf Sq is the conventional base for measuring mileage to and from London. Nothing to do with post codes.
You're both wrong. All distances are measured form Charing Cross.
Is pollards hill SE london? Or just south london?
Anyway, tis a shithole.
bolded bit my hometown. shit. It depresses me everytime i go back to visit my mum. even worse since they concreted over some fields in order to make a B&Q. I used to go to Erith to hang about becasue there was more to do there than in belvedere. awful.
SW with a Croydon postcode iirc
Thornton Heath is a bit grim as well eh!
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