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ATOMIC SUPLEX

Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Yeah I have just spent the day walking though this croydon shit hole.

To get to this hideous and dangerous area for lunch.




Croydon is a big place. West Croydon is very different from park hill for instance. Most of it is really suburban. It's also the greenest (not as in recycling or energy) of all the London boroughs.
 

MellySingsDoom

Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
^^^^Is that Park Hill Park? Pics 1 & 2 look familiar, but not so pic 3. Haven't been there in yonks (my old junior school was a 3 mins walk from there) - used to be a nice place when I were a lad, although you did get the occasional "punk" gluesniffers now and again hanging around the playground. Lloyd Park is the big 'un though for Croydon parkage.
 

ATOMIC SUPLEX

Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
^^^^Is that Park Hill Park? Pics 1 & 2 look familiar, but not so pic 3. Haven't been there in yonks (my old junior school was a 3 mins walk from there) - used to be a nice place when I were a lad, although you did get the occasional "punk" gluesniffers now and again hanging around the playground. Lloyd Park is the big 'un though for Croydon parkage.
First pic is lloyd park. Cross that from my place and on the other side is coombe gardens and coombe wood.
Is park hill park the one that runs by the railway? Park hill school is very popular, we live pretty close but the catchment area is so small, our daughter is instead going to a school twice as far away from us. The only person I know that got in this year lives directly opposite.
 

MellySingsDoom

Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
First pic is lloyd park. Cross that from my place and on the other side is coombe gardens and coombe wood.
Is park hill park the one that runs by the railway? Park hill school is very popular, we live pretty close but the catchment area is so small, our daughter is instead going to a school twice as far away from us. The only person I know that got in this year lives directly opposite.
Ah yeah, pic 1 makes sense - too big to be Park Hill itself. Yeah, from what I recall, the railway does run by there...that's right, it does. The main entrance to Park Hill is on that road where the Croydon Courts are, going down towards Fairfield Halls etc. We used to live in central Croydon - round the corner from Dingwall Road car park, so we were probably in the catchment area then at the time. I'm old enough to remember the Holiday Inn near East Croydon station being built, and also the properties opposite Park Hill entrance are on grounds that used to be occupied by a mansion that a friend of mine used to live in (his Dad had made a lot of cash in property in them days).
 

dynamicbaddog

Well-Known Member
Used to work that way for a while - South Bermondsey station used to be bleak - and on a couple of occasions when there was a midweek game at the New Den, pretty intimidating.
LOL.
I've lived here for nearly 20 years, it's not too bad when you get used to it, but yes it can be grim. It's worse than usual at the moment because they are building an extension to the overground line and have closed off the nearby bit of green space Bridgehouse Meadows and the footpath that runs alongside Millwall.:mad:
 

Garek

Living n ADDled chaos
No mentioned Erith? Not the worst, but certainly near the bottom.

I would hate to live here:



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Arse end of nowhere. Anyone know what they area is called?
 

Garek

Living n ADDled chaos
erith is in Kent no?
Yes and no. It is in the London Borough of Bexley. But nearly everyone I know who lives in said borough still refers to themselves as living in Kent, and identifies themselves more strongly with that county.

There is a Kent/Surrey country border marker in Brockley, up near Haberdashers Aske school.
 

London_Calling

Pleasant and unpatronising
I assume when people say 'Croydon' the mean they town centre and possibly some of the types of people who inhabit the Whitgift area. As said, it's a very big place with an awful lot of good quality housing stock, top-rated schools, and other shit.

Thamesmead however . . .
 

Garek

Living n ADDled chaos
Here is a thought - is there anything actually wrong with the design of the Thamesmead estate? If it had been given a tube station and a proper high street would it still be terrible? Basically what I am asking is there something intrinsically wrong with its design, or do the problem lie it its execution and implementation?
 

Andy the Don

Wise men say only fools..
Used to work that way for a while - South Bermondsey station used to be bleak - and on a couple of occasions when there was a midweek game at the New Den, pretty intimidating.
Likewise, spent over 4 year working in South Bermondsey, liked some aspects of the area, like SAMs Barber shop the easy of commuting. But I always felt that there was a a nasty undertow to the place an area in which should your face not fit there is a good chance of getting a kicking. Noxious youths giving you the eye as they walk their pit bulls, which then shit all over the street. Now Bermondsey Street and around the Leathermarket are nicer areas but anything east of Abbey Street/Tower Bridge could be nasty.
 

Streathamite

ideological dogmatist
Here is a thought - is there anything actually wrong with the design of the Thamesmead estate? If it had been given a tube station and a proper high street would it still be terrible? Basically what I am asking is there something intrinsically wrong with its design, or do the problem lie it its execution and implementation?
a high st etc, probably would have helped, but there never was even the slightest chance of the tube. also, they used it as a social dumping ground from the start, so it's current hellishness was part-designed in from day 1.
However, IMO large parts of peckham are as bad
 

davesgcr

Reading books
Thamesmead , should have had the Fleet line built to it - just never happened because of the recession etc etc.....

I have to say , I despise my 3 monthly visits to Central Croydon with a deep passion. Even worse than Swindon.
 

Garek

Living n ADDled chaos
Erith always makes me think of Linda Smith. She said it wasn't twinned with anywhere, but it had a suicide pact with Dagenham.
Ah good old Linda. The Reaper took her far too early :(

I find places like Erith odd. For all this talk of London being a crowded city there are still huge empty spaces. Not empty as undeveloped or rural, just simply empty. Vast stretches of nothingness, disconnected from the rest of the city.

EDIT: Ok looking at google maps here is the best example of I can find f what my last comment refers to. West of the M25, north of the A207, East of the A205, south of the river.
 

dynamicbaddog

Well-Known Member
a high st etc, probably would have helped, but there never was even the slightest chance of the tube. also, they used it as a social dumping ground from the start, so it's current hellishness was part-designed in from day 1.
it's been redeveloped since the housing there was first built. The place is not nearly as hellish as it used to be.
 

Gingerman

Is a great bunch of lads.....
Likewise, spent over 4 year working in South Bermondsey, liked some aspects of the area, like SAMs Barber shop the easy of commuting. But I always felt that there was a a nasty undertow to the place an area in which should your face not fit there is a good chance of getting a kicking. Noxious youths giving you the eye as they walk their pit bulls, which then shit all over the street. Now Bermondsey Street and around the Leathermarket are nicer areas but anything east of Abbey Street/Tower Bridge could be nasty.
Bermonsdey St has really come on in the last few years,would'nt mind living there.New Cross aint the most salubrious place in SE London.
 

Garek

Living n ADDled chaos
a high st etc, probably would have helped, but there never was even the slightest chance of the tube. also, they used it as a social dumping ground from the start, so it's current hellishness was part-designed in from day 1.
There was slight chance when the Jubilee line was still the Fleet line. But then of course the Fleet line became the Jubilee line and a line entirely to serve to rich, which Thamesmead doesn't quite fit into.
 
I can't stand Peckham. I went to look at a house there, the owner gave me a tour and showed me into the bathroom where there was an evil turd floating in the toilet bowl. I can't go anywhere near it without that image popping into my head.
 
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