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I admit I'm no expert concerning football but can someone explain to me please why Liverpool has two teams in the Premiership whilst Bristol, pretty much the same size, hasn't had one since 1980?
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littlebabyjesus
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Hastings? Pop: 86,000
The reason Bristol has crap teams is probably something to do with the popularity of Rugby in the South West.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
bristol city (don't tell jtg) played several seasons in division one (old school) in the late 70s
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
My question was as much about Liverpool as Bristol. Anyway, which one do you support, City or Rovers?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I think more puzzling is the absence of Leeds from the top division for long periods. One of the largest cities in Britain, and a large support for football, yet they've spent almost half of the last 25 years out of the first division.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Or the fact that Bristol is two small to support two elite teams and sgould have done the sensible thing and amalgamated years ago!
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
Maybe, except that Rugby League is popular in Lancashire and that hasn't stopped either Manchester or Liverpool having teams in the Premiership.
I wouldn't say Bristol teams were crap btw, they're both reasonable but just not as good as they should be for a city with a half million population and loadsamoney (Bristol's loaded, I lived there back in the early '80s for a short while and lots of financial companies from the South East have relocated there).
Mrs Magpie
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What is the criterion for defining a City? It always used to be somewhere with a cathedral but this seems to have changed eg as far as I know Brighton & Hove has no cathedral.
On the London thing - Donna was saying last year that London didn't have any teams in the Prem, as only the City of London was London, so therefore, if one was arguing it from Donna's perspective, each area of london could be considered a city...
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Has to be awarded by the sovereign. We are unique in this respect, everywhere else in the world its just a big town!
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Birmingham have Moseley a top flight club before the Zurich vame along.
I know that the largest conurbation never to field a first class rugby side in Wales is Barry.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
A cathedral or a royal warrant is necessary IIRC. Plymouth's a city despite not having a cathedral (apart from the R C one).
But how would one define a city in a non-christian country then?
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Won't by Plymouth for long, Argyle are going up next year sure as eggs is eggs. With any luck they'll beat Newcastle in the playoff final
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Won't by Plymouth for long, Argyle are going up next year sure as eggs is eggs. With any luck they'll beat Newcastle in the playoff final
Its NOT Plymouth at all tho. it will be when Wakefield get to the Prem and Plymouth are still waiting!!
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Nottingham lacks for a cathedral also. The cathedral thing is a daft way to define a city, based on that you've got pisspot little barely-even-a-place-never-mind-a-city towns like Ripon and Bangor which are technically cities.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
it can be having an Abbey or a University, that's how Bath got the city gig
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
Bath is allowed to be a city because it's got all history and that. And it's pretty.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
true, but it is pretty small for a city tbf, about 85,000 iirc
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The population of Wakefield is only 70,000. The figure of 300,000 is the population of something called Wakefield city district, which includes totally separate towns such as Castleford and Featherstone.Its NOT Plymouth at all tho. it will be when Wakefield get to the Prem and Plymouth are still waiting!!
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
That's still a lot more than some of the quote unquote cities in the UK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallest_cities_in_the_United_Kingdom
Ely, there's another blatantly-just-a-town-with-a-big-church. Someone needs to get the old city secateurs out and do some trimming.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Northampton would swallow up a couple of some so-called towns.
Liz is bang out of order, needs to make Northampton a City cos it is massive.
SpookyFrank
Don't swallow the cap
I always thought an abbey or cathedral made a settlement a city.
I remember a few places applying to be made cities a year or two ago. Can't remember where applied though. Possibly Reading, Preston, Swindon?
Leeds is a big city to only have one major league team. I mean Liverpool, Sheffield, Manchester, Bristol etc all have 2 teams in the league.
I remember a few places applying to be made cities a year or two ago. Can't remember where applied though. Possibly Reading, Preston, Swindon?
Leeds is a big city to only have one major league team. I mean Liverpool, Sheffield, Manchester, Bristol etc all have 2 teams in the league.
St Davids has a population of less than 2000! and its a city due to its catherdral. Don't think St Davids FC have been in the Premier League for a while too
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Evidently her majesty is not utterly devoid of taste
Hey, Northampton has some hidden beauties. A melancholy graveyard of nuns, just tucked away behind high street shops and takeaway joints. The brutal one fingered salute to the world they call the Express Lifts Tower. Crowned yearly by a christmas tree
I could go on. It's fucking old and once you know where to look there are plenty of reasons to like northampton.
Wellingborough on the other hand...
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