which is the best cider?
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ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Is wine a cider? If so that's my favorite. Followed by vodka.
johnnymarrsbars
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ive got 2 bottles of westerns organic in the fridge. gonna tuck into that in a bit..
old rosie is well nice.
i had some 'cheddar valley' cider once (BRIGHT orange stuff served out of a brown barrel thing). that was some crazy shit. the guy in the pub actually called it "loopy juice" and he was right.
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old rosie is well nice.
i had some 'cheddar valley' cider once (BRIGHT orange stuff served out of a brown barrel thing). that was some crazy shit. the guy in the pub actually called it "loopy juice" and he was right.
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Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
As a bloke who has been making his own cider for some years, I must dispute this.
I am normally able to gather enough cookers and eaterst to press and make 10gal cider most years (I have used Sauternes yeast for clearest results, but wine yeast will make the cider very strong/dry. Try open fermenting for a week before sealing the brew using the yeast present on the apple skins). Even adding tea for tannin and lemon juice for acid doesn't make my cider on a par with 'proper' cider.
Cider should be made with the correct ratio of 'sours' and 'bitters'. It gives the depth of flavour and the bitter on the back of the tongue that you just cant get with eating apple/apple juice cider.
I eschew 'single (eating) variety' cider as it tends to be quite sweet/lacking in depth. Westons 'flagon' scrumpy is pretty good, as is 'Old Rosie'. The best of the lot, however, is Thatchers, bought in a Somerset pub, choose 'orange' (medium) or 'yellow' (dry). Their scrumpy in the green plastic bottle is pretty good if you can't get to Somerset.
Also, try the ukcider wiki to find interesting local ciders.
K 
OK, sure, if you're trying to make boutique cider, then you can go to any lengths you like to get the right mix of juices. And I always thought the apple-juice cider was a bit of a poor relation...but actually, with some of the juices available it's pretty damn good. It's certainly not sweet - the fermentation takes care of that. I'll give you "lacking in depth", which is why I've been quite impressed with this stuff made from the Tesco own brand apples.
No, it probably won't compete with the brands you describe - but having taken some to a festie/party/wedding reception a while back, I found it was being compared favourably with, eg., the Westons Organic. Which was a surprise, because I thought it was too dry, and not as complex...others disagreed
One day, when I can afford a press, I'll concentrate on Real Apple ciders. Meanwhile, this is as good as your average shop stuff, and possibly even a little better.
I quite like K, seriously. For something of 8.4% it's actually quite nice if you drink it really cold. Infinitely superior to any super strength lager.
Except Duvel.
johnnymarrsbars
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i'm craving some cheddar valley now.
and its not even 12 o clock.
they sell it in the pub next to uni (the new oxford, salford, if anyones interested. great pub). had a few pints before a lecture once and had no food all day.
made for a nice hour giggling to myself in the middle of the lecturer talking about modernist soviet architecture.
The only other place i know that sells it is Bar Fringe in the Northern Quarter, which also has Gary Glitter on the jukebox. It's probably my favourite pub in the world.
Herbsman.
Nah Lotion, Pet, Nor Powder.
Duvel is nice, I was drinking that stuff in Belgium, bit too strong and nice so I only had the one. Never bothered with it over here.
I went to a pub once, ordered a cheddar valley, and the barman suspiciously went in to a back room to pull the pint. Pretty sure it was real CV tbf but i like to see exactly whats going into my pint!
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
You don't, usually.
And if it's the stuff the farmers brew for their own consumption then, trust me on this, you really don't want to.
Here's an appropriate tune for all those who have struggled (and lost painfully) with the mighty scrumpy.
I kind of like that to be honest, it's a bit League of Gentlemen - "we keep the special stuff out in the back"
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
No, it probably won't compete with the brands you describe - but having taken some to a festie/party/wedding reception a while back, I found it was being compared favourably with, eg., the Westons Organic. Which was a surprise, because I thought it was too dry, and not as complex...others disagreed
One day, when I can afford a press, I'll concentrate on Real Apple ciders. Meanwhile, this is as good as your average shop stuff, and possibly even a little better.
I aint knocking it too much - I make all mine from eaters/cookers in the ratio they fall on my missus' boss orchard floor.
Just saying it don't quite taste 'proper', even when I have tried to balance the acids and tannins by other means (tea and lemons).
I mean, I must think its ok to drink ten gallons of the stuff every year, I just tend to keep it to myself/visitors, I'd be too embarrassed to take it anywhere.
Btw - I wasn't knocking the fact that you use apple juice, more that apple juice is made solely from eating apples.
just looked at the Summerdown cider in front of me.. cheap stuff £2 for 2 litres.. its got added sugar and sweeteners in it ....K cider is pretty strong and I reckon it got a bad name like tramp treacle.. but it ain't got any additive apart from the sulphates that is in all ciders...strongbow and old english have more additves.
i had some chedder valley last night.
it was lovely.
when do you ever see exactly what's going into your pint btw?
lol yes fair point! didnt think that one through
what i mean is i would have prefered it if he had pulled my pint in front of me..
tom_craggs
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Growing up in somerset a trip down to the lcoal small cider farm (near wells) is the best Cider I have tried. Now I am in London the best I can get my hands on easily is Thatchers.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I have to agree with that. It's still on the harsh side, but it's the nicest Tramp Juice out there.
Thatchers or Aspalls if I can get it.
You forgot that it will do as paintstripper too. The stuff from the Vosges is a fair match. Yum!
big up the K cider massive
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