nino_savatte
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Zappa/Mothers and Beefheart were around before the term prog was coined. Zappa thought of himself as a classical musician while Beefheart was more blues-oriented. Both were avant-garde. It's a tough call.
Which country produced the best prog rock?
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Zappa/Mothers and Beefheart were around before the term prog was coined. Zappa thought of himself as a classical musician while Beefheart was more blues-oriented. Both were avant-garde. It's a tough call.
the only band on the list i'd never heard so I was giving you the benefit of the doubt
As if I deserved the benefit of the doubt!
(ETA: TEB did the sound track to Roman Polanski's Macbeth which you might be familiar with...)
nino_savatte
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seeformiles
Lost in the wood
No way were either prog - no medieval/Tolkein/pixies/water nymph references clinches it for me. Avant-garde verging on jazz maybe!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
You do all realise that you're having this conversation in public, don't you?
No way were either prog - no medieval/Tolkein/pixies/water nymph references clinches it for me. Avant-garde verging on jazz maybe!
Exactly, the Italians rule if the Brits, Germans & Americans don't cheat!
Le Orme
Banco
Premiata Forneria Marconi
Il Balletto di Bronzo
New Trolls
Area (if they count)
Arti & Mestieri (if they count)
All a notch above Yes and Genesis.
There's a lot of good South American prog as well which I don't know so much about.
Yes, but I expect people to look the other way out of politeness.
Meltingpot
Living in our pools we soon forget about the sea
Edgar Broughton was/is more acid rock than prog (although I haven't heard his later acoustic stuff).
Out Demons Out rocks btw.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
A cautionary tale:
My mate was in a punk band in the 1980s, and made raucous, often awful but sometimes brilliant music. In the 1990s, he started listening to ELP. The result was a concept album based on Doctor Who.*
Don't do it, folks.
*One track, The March of the Cybermen, was actually quite good.
My mate was in a punk band in the 1980s, and made raucous, often awful but sometimes brilliant music. In the 1990s, he started listening to ELP. The result was a concept album based on Doctor Who.*
Don't do it, folks.
*One track, The March of the Cybermen, was actually quite good.
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hiraethified
Sorry, but who?
Le Orme were a classical rock keyboard based band doing roughly the same sort of thing as ELP. Less wanky than ELP though.
Il Balletto Di Bronzo started out as a psych band but made a truly intense keyboard-heavy symphonic rock album before disbanding.
The New Trolls were very eclectic started out prog/psch went through a jazz-rock phase and then did classical rock with occasional Black Sabbath touches. Often quite fun in a tongue of cheek sort of way.
Apart from perhaps Il Balletto Di Bronzo, non of these bands are particularly obscure. These are the big names in 70's Italian prog rock.
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Sure and I don't think our North American cousins can hold a candle to us either.
Yup - Can't think of much US prog that I'd give a second listen to at all - Except maybe the early Kansas but even then, you can see where they got it from.
Similarly, I found the more overtly jazz-based British prog harder to listen too n'all.
Which is when I moved more in the direction of Krautrock etc.
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hiraethified
Big names in Italian prog rock maybe, but their appeal on a global scale seems a little selective, to say the least.
nino_savatte
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No way were either prog - no medieval/Tolkein/pixies/water nymph references clinches it for me. Avant-garde verging on jazz maybe!
Sure, unless you count some of Zappa's piss-taking references to such things.
nino_savatte
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"Grocer Jack, Grocer Jack
Is it true what mommy says, you won't come back?
Oh no, no".
Is that the one?
"Grocer Jack, Grocer Jack
Is it true what mommy says, you won't come back?
Oh no, no".
Is that the one?
no, that was Excerpt From A Teenage Opera by Keith West.
Beggars Opera were a German prog outfit
nino_savatte
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nino_savatte
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Was that not "Teenage Opera" or something & did it actually get any further than that one song?
Nah, it was a bit like Zager & Evans, a one hit wonder.
Probably more selective than Yes but less selective than Gentle Giant. If you know anything about prog rock then you know these bands. Not that that's a thing to brag about.
Nah, it was a bit like Zager & Evans, a one hit wonder.
nah, more material was written and recorded. i think some even got released later
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Nah, it was a bit like Zager & Evans, a one hit wonder.
OK, I only remember it as a frequently played novelty song on that old Radio 1 oldies show - Never even considered it prog because of that!
it's not!!! crossed wires
pogofish
Testicle Hairstyle
Bloody hell!
Would that & a lot of other earlier stuff of the same ilk fall into some form of proto-prog category?
nino_savatte
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Zager & Evans weren't prog but their song was a one-hit wonder.
I hated that song In the Year 2525 btw.
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