tangerinedream
Density of Sound
I like firefox, but use camino cos I'm rather taken with it's macness as simplicity and the way it just works and is better than safari or i.e. Firefox was too unstable for me. Miss the cool extensions though.
Which browser do you use and why?
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
exleper said:
Fucking right!
Dubversion said:Internet Explorer because i'm lazy and i was underwhelmed with Firefox.
i know this is a crime against all that is good and pure in this world, but i just can't be arsed to change
Ditto, and because I can't be arsed to roll out and support anything else when I've a thousand other more important things to do. Users here are very sceptical of anything that smells like an OSS experiment having had their functionality badly shafted in the past.
However, if someone wanted to run an alternative for whatever reason I'd be unlikely to stop them.
dormouse said:I use Safari because it comes with the Mac and it's not IE and it's good enough for me - I've never had any prblems - what on earth are you quibbly lot all doing on the internet??
Well... One, you're aren't using IE, and two, you aren't using a Microsoft o/s. There's two good reasons you don't get into trouble...
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
jæd said:
Ballcocks 
some of you folks have too much time on yer hands ...
spacemonkey
I Love Noodles
Firefox for me, love tabbed browsing. And no pop-ups!
Any one tried http://www.flock.com/
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
jayeola said:
I had a look at the website but it didn’t seem like enough difference from Firefox for me to bother with tbh. They’ve made a big deal about RSS and blogging etc but I aint blogging at the mo and I use Bloglines which suits me fine.
I kinda get the feeling from them that they are just trying to use FFs’ success by throwing a bunch of “Web 2.0” features in.
Since i mostly access the W3 at uni or my local library, the web browser that i mostly use is Interweb Explorer from Micro$oft. But on the odd occassions i use the Mozilla browser at uni, but it buggers up the amount of memory on your user profile which is only 5 Megs (each student at my uni has only got this about of data to store on their profile). Thus i have to delete some of the files e.g. Application data folder to save some profile space.
So i'm forced to used IE, i could only wish that the IT services my local uni yet alone the school of Art and Design (which my part-time degree course is based) pulls it finger out and provide Opera, Firefox and Safari. Which are the three best web browers for web standards and compatability.
So i'm forced to used IE, i could only wish that the IT services my local uni yet alone the school of Art and Design (which my part-time degree course is based) pulls it finger out and provide Opera, Firefox and Safari. Which are the three best web browers for web standards and compatability.
Firefox on the Mac and PC. I tried Safari, but the spinning beachball was becoming a bit annoying. Opera was better but I ended up going back to Firefox I guess I was too used to it. There were problems with using the scrolling trackpad with it, but I'm using 1.5 RC1 at the moment and that seems to have been sorted out. I guess i'm just too used to FF
I tend to use Quicksilver to find links quickly for FF, it works surprisingly well.
I tend to use Quicksilver to find links quickly for FF, it works surprisingly well.
I use Konqueror almost exclusively. I have other browsers installed so that I can check web page layouts/functionality in them for work, but for everything else, it's Konqueror all the way.
For me it's one of the "killer apps" in KDE. It integrates web browsing with file management (both local and remote through ftp and ssh with fish://), viewing etc. in an amazing way. It's integration with the rest of KDE means that Konqueror is virtually always open on my desktop, so it just gets used.
For me it's one of the "killer apps" in KDE. It integrates web browsing with file management (both local and remote through ftp and ssh with fish://), viewing etc. in an amazing way. It's integration with the rest of KDE means that Konqueror is virtually always open on my desktop, so it just gets used.
exleper said:
A bit of an odd thing to say (I understand that this is probably meant as a "joke", but I'll take it at face value for now).
What's it to you which web browser they are using? They may be doing themselves a disservice, and we all want to help people by persuading them to change away from Internet Explorer, but in the end, it's up to them to make the change.
I don't use Firefox generally and nor do many other people (see above where I mention Konqueror). There's also Safari, Opera, Galleon, Mozilla, Lynx etc. etc. Firefox isn't the only way to go, however good you think it is.
Personally I would like to see everyone using free (as in free speech) software, but what's just as important are web standards. It's not the users of Internet Explorer who have screwed this up in the past, but lazy or ignorant "web designers." Get people to use proper web standards, then you can use whatever browser you like and be more successful in persuading people to leave Internet Explorer and other non-free software.
Shouting at them and recommending coercive procedures (even as a joke) just puts people off.
http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/core/scripts/entryViewer.php?ID=7934
I use Opera and IE, wouldn't use Firefox if you paid me
Ravel said:
http://www.chrisbeach.co.uk/core/scripts/entryViewer.php?ID=7934
I use Opera and IE, wouldn't use Firefox if you paid me
Some Secunia "security reports":
Opera 8.x: http://secunia.com/product/4932/
Microsoft Internet Explorer 6.x: http://secunia.com/product/11/
Mozilla Firefox 1.x: http://secunia.com/product/4227/
Konqueror 3.x: http://secunia.com/product/3166/
I've added the last one out of personal interest.
So, you've found an article that states that a piece of software that connects to the internet has/had a security flaw.
Well, stop the world and knock me down with a feather!
Taking a claim that has never been made by the Mozilla Foundation (that there never will be security flaws in Firefox) and then standing there, pointing, every time any security flaw is found, getting all excited, is just plain daft.
Interestingly, check out the security report for Suse 9.3 (they don't seem to have got round to doing 10 yet), and that's for a whole operating system and desktop (ie all of the thousands of programmes supplied in the Suse distribution). It's pretty impressive
http://secunia.com/product/4933/
Ravel said:I *was* replying to a post denying the existance of exploits in non IE browsers
Hey, if you're really that worried about security flaws in Firefox you should be dusting down that old calculator rather than running off to Internet Explorer.
Talk about frying pans and fires!
binka
!!!!!!!!!
opera for me, its the only browser i have used apart from IE and im very happy with it: its fast, tabbed browsing is ace, as is the hotlist section with notes, bookmarks, links, transfers etc. mouse gestures are very cool aswell, and its nice that when it does occassionaly crash when you reopen it you can start from where it crashed.
only problem is some webpages are not designed with opera in mind
only problem is some webpages are not designed with opera in mind
Drarok
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As someone said earlier:
"Opera fan here. Much faster and more featureful than FF IME, since I need to bog FF down with about 20 extensions before it reaches an acceptable level of functionality"
I have to use FF at work, tho, as I use a SOCKS proxy, and Opera doesn't support that.
I also have to check our intranet in IE.
I love Opera as an app, it's fast, full of features, and the tabbed browsing is integrated, whereas FF's implementation seems "bolted on" at the last minute.
For example, click a link that's got target="_blank" in FF, you get a new window! I WANT IT IN A TAB, YOU FOP!
Now, the reason I bolded "as an app" up there is because the Opera rendering engine has some REALLY freaky bugs. To get a site to render perfectly in IE and FF is quite simple, then add in Opera and BOOM! It's totally f-ed up. Fiddle with the source, got it working in FF and Opera! Woo! Now IE doesn't work right! It's a nightmare.
Generally I just test in IE, FF, and Safari, cuz Opera just ain't worth it - it's users should EXPECT things to render wrong. Heh.
Just my 2 pence.
"Opera fan here. Much faster and more featureful than FF IME, since I need to bog FF down with about 20 extensions before it reaches an acceptable level of functionality"
I have to use FF at work, tho, as I use a SOCKS proxy, and Opera doesn't support that.
I also have to check our intranet in IE.
I love Opera as an app, it's fast, full of features, and the tabbed browsing is integrated, whereas FF's implementation seems "bolted on" at the last minute.
For example, click a link that's got target="_blank" in FF, you get a new window! I WANT IT IN A TAB, YOU FOP!
Now, the reason I bolded "as an app" up there is because the Opera rendering engine has some REALLY freaky bugs. To get a site to render perfectly in IE and FF is quite simple, then add in Opera and BOOM! It's totally f-ed up. Fiddle with the source, got it working in FF and Opera! Woo! Now IE doesn't work right! It's a nightmare.
Generally I just test in IE, FF, and Safari, cuz Opera just ain't worth it - it's users should EXPECT things to render wrong. Heh.
Just my 2 pence.
Drarok
Well-Known Member
binka said:
Only problem is some browsers aren't designed with web pages in mind...
If they adhered to standards properly, it'd render right.
I believe (could be wrong) that FF is VERY VERY strictly adhered to the standards, so if your site renders as it should in FF, the other browsers are wrong.
IE is certainly very wrong. I'm not up to speed on the exact details, I have to keep getting my mate to debug some pages, there's a width/border/margin issue where IE adds them together wrongly and stuff, that's irritating.
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