Where does the real north begin?

[Lock&Light]

I always thought the North began with Balloch, on the southern shores of Loch Lomond.

 

[Hi-ASL]

I hate these southern wazzocks who think the North is past the fucking Watford Gap, but I also hate these Geordie types who think owt south of Rockall is the fucking Midlands

Wo, as they say, rd.

 

[soulman]

Nottingham's about right in a suspect hybrid way, with a much lower pedigree than the cities up the road. Leeds, Manchester and Liverpool are indisputably North Proper.

I'd go with this. I reckon once you reach the Pennines you're in The North. Merseyside, Manchester, Lancashire and going up in to The Lakes are all the North West. Cross the Pennines and you're in the North East.

 

[JTG]

That would put Yorkshire in the North East, which it clearly isn't. It's Yorkshire.

 

[soulman]

That would put Yorkshire in the North East, which it clearly isn't. It's Yorkshire.

It would put parts of Yorkshire in the North East. Certainly the North Riding and East Riding. The West Riding is spread over the Pennines and I've always considered it part of the North West.

 

[Firky]

It would put parts of Yorkshire in the North East.

fighting talk

 

[soulman]

fighting talk

Looking at your funny little map I reckon the northern most point of England is Carlisle. Anything above that is really Scotland

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

For us, it's anything north of the North Shore Mountains, which are visible from downtown Vancouver. So that means about 2000 miles of 'north'.

 

[rover07]

Gatwick is the gateway to the North...

 

[Firky]

Looking at your funny little map I reckon the northern most point of England is Carlisle. Anything above that is really Scotland

I am further north than Carlisle and still in England. My great grandad used to drive sheep and cattle from here to Carlisle and Aberdeen on foot!

 

[aqua]

I was bored by that point

 

[Yetman]

Liverpool is not midlands!..anywhere from Yorkshire up is north.

Exactly

And the amount of times I get called a northerner by you southern bastards......

 

[King Biscuit Time]

Derby - Midlands
Chesterfield - Up for debate
Sheffield - First town thats indisputably Northern.


For the western side of the country see Stoke, Chester and Manchester.

(oh, and Bristol is in the Westcountry, but it's not in the South West)

 

[felixthecat]

I hate these southern wazzocks who think the North is past the fucking Watford Gap,

Thats me . Anything further up than Gloucester I consider to be the dark and mysterious 'North'.

and as for 'East' - well, then you lose me


THing is, my world geography is shit hot, but my knowledge of the geography of my own country is shocking.

 

[zenie]

it doesn't matter. all that matters is that the West starts at Swindon/Gloucester (depending on where you're coming from) and is entirely different from the South (which is shit)

I thought you wanted to move to London?

Watford Gap services for me - I'm slightly worried about going to Bristol

I like those sevice too, shame you're on your way too the midlands/north when you go there though!

 

[King Biscuit Time]

And South Wales is very similar to the North in all the key ways

Gravy in chippys - Check
Working men's clubs - Check
Unintelligible dialect - Check

So all of Wales is in the North.

 

[Belushi]

The Thames.

 

[Roadkill]

This article by Simon Jenkins seems somehow relevant to some of what's being said on this thread...

 

[Mallard]

What Roadkill said. The exhibition at Salford put Worcester in the north which I just can't get my head round. Chesterfield and all of Derbyshire is in the East Midlands as is Notts! Some people used to say north of the Trent if they were looking for a north/south divide ignoring the existence of the midlands. I remember reading somewhere that there's a median population line which is just south of Burton-on Trent. I'd say South Yorkshire myself.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Yup! Live inside the national park.

What, as some sort of wild creature or something?

 

[JTG]

(oh, and Bristol is in the Westcountry, but it's not in the South West)

Absolutely - though West Country is spelled as two words not one

South West starts somewhere beyond Taunton.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

What, as some sort of wild creature or something?

Something like this?

 

[Firky]

What, as some sort of wild creature or something?

There's some good folklore around these parts, so possibly.

This is the real north:

I miss my camera

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Surely that's a fucking golf course?

 

[Kanda]

Surely that's a fucking golf course?

No, it should be. Then Firky can collect golf balls and sell them.

 

[Donna Ferentes]

So that's not a bunker alongside a green on the far left of the lefthand picture?

 

[Firky]

Surely that's a fucking golf course?

Iron age fort type thing.

 

[sam/phallocrat]

The north, as most sensible people seem to agree, starts at around Chesterfield (Chezvegas).

 

[danny la rouge]

The north in fact starts just beyond Stirling. The south starts round about Falkirk.

 

[subversplat]

Northampton.