When the levees broke: tonight
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Most definitely worth seeing from the sound of it.
Rather good review (imo) in Socialist Worker:
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=10329
Rather good review (imo) in Socialist Worker:
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php?article_id=10329
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Am looking forward to this..
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Groucho said:
Agreed. Same time, same place tomorrow.
Also a great documentary about Cajan music on now.
Dhimmi
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Just how did I miss this thread?
Thanks Rutita.
It was exceptionally good bar the grimness of it all.
My favourite bits were the black three star general storming around barking "Put that gun down" to the troops, the story about Captain Christian, and just about every word Nagin said.
The most infuriating new thing I heard was the neighbouring district putting up a line of police to stop folk being able to leave through their relatively untouched surburb.
Thanks Rutita.
It was exceptionally good bar the grimness of it all.
My favourite bits were the black three star general storming around barking "Put that gun down" to the troops, the story about Captain Christian, and just about every word Nagin said.
The most infuriating new thing I heard was the neighbouring district putting up a line of police to stop folk being able to leave through their relatively untouched surburb.
It was fucking grim viewing indeed.
Apart from that FUCKING AMAZING woman cracking jokes about smoking any drugs anyone might conceivably have before decking airport security after suffering the indignity of living amongst rotting corpses for days on end AND THEN being searched before allowed on a plane. She was
Apart from that FUCKING AMAZING woman cracking jokes about smoking any drugs anyone might conceivably have before decking airport security after suffering the indignity of living amongst rotting corpses for days on end AND THEN being searched before allowed on a plane. She was
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Yeah she really illiustrated that sheer lunacy of the situation....her laugh/crack a joke or you'll cry approach was moving....I mean how do you recover from something like it...Pigeon said:It was fucking grim viewing indeed.
Apart from that FUCKING AMAZING woman cracking jokes about smoking any drugs anyone might conceivably have before decking airport security after suffering the indignity of living amongst rotting corpses for days on end AND THEN being searched before allowed on a plane. She was
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Pigeon said:
Spike Lee's a twat. Does America only have the one black director or what? Spike Lee's like the guy they wheel out whenever some issue involving black people needs a film making about it. And yet, his films bore me senseless.
It makes me sick.
Piers Gibbon
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great documentary...I never stay still for a whole programme - this one had me hooked
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Still, by the sounds of it, I wish I'd caught this. Nothing good in the priogramme would have been because Spike Lee was involved though.
'Spike Lee', what a stupid name that is.
'Spike Lee', what a stupid name that is.
Donna Ferentes
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What considerations led you to formulate that opinion?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
foreigner said:
My what a reasoned view of the documentary.
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foreigner said:Spike Lee's a twat. Does America only have the one black director or what? Spike Lee's like the guy they wheel out whenever some issue involving black people needs a film making about it. And yet, his films bore me senseless.
It makes me sick.
God blimey mate, blame it on Spike why don't you!
Did you watch it?
What did you think of it?
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pk said:
Well everyone has an agenda wouldn't you say?, you can question the objectiveness of any director surely?
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Rutita1 said:
I missed it unfortunately, but I do know I don't like Spike Lee and his works. It's bloody typical that in this fucked-up racist world where a whole culture of people (black Americans) have to make do with about one single solitary voice in all of film and cinema (as far as I know) that it would have to be Spike Lee's irritating whine serving as that voice.
foreigner said:Spike Lee's a twat. Does America only have the one black director or what? Spike Lee's like the guy they wheel out whenever some issue involving black people needs a film making about it. And yet, his films bore me senseless.
It makes me sick.
I have no idea whether America has "only the one black director" or not. I do know that it as few directors as talented as Lee- as last night's programme made clear- if you'd watched it.
If you'd watched it, you'd also know that one of the main focuses in the programme was class rather than race. Almost as if the director thought that no one, black or white, should end up sitting up to their necks in sewage and corpses for days on end as the result of instituional incompetence and callousness. If you'd watched it that is.
And Spike Lee's a twat? Jesus.
Reno
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foreigner said:
I'm convinced the fact that he got your back up means he's doing something right.
Ever heard of Carl Franklyn, John Singleton, Thomas Carter, George Jackson or Antoine Fuqua btw. ? All of them are successful African American film directors, so you ranting about "one single solitary voice in all of film and cinema" is arse.
I'm not an uncritical admirer of Lee's work and think he often gets it wrong, but this documentary is gripping, restrained, fair and an important piece of political film making and it's obvious that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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Yep, he wasDhimmi said:
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Pigeon said:
Ermmm, I sure you already know the answer to that...
My point was why is Spike Lee any less objective?Spike Lee hasn't even appeared or been heard once so far.....and anyway why shouldn't he have something to say? Just because 'some' don't like him or appreciate his work doesn't mean his viewpoints are not valid.
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Pigeon said:I have no idea whether America has "only the one black director" or not. I do know that it as few directors as talented as Lee- as last night's programme made clear- if you'd watched it.
If you'd watched it, you'd also know that one of the main focuses in the programme was class rather than race. Almost as if the director thought that no one, black or white, should end up sitting up to their necks in sewage and corpses for days on end as the result of instituional incompetence and callousness. If you'd watched it that is.
And Spike Lee's a twat? Jesus.
I didn't say the programme was about race, where did you get that? I just said Spike Lee is a twat, which he is. everybody knows what sort of place the US is, the sort of place that is the richest and most militarily powerful nation on Earth where vast numbers of people are left to rot after a major civil catastrophy because in my view the US isn't really a civilisation at all, but rather a place where lots of millionaires play golf. abit like the Philipines really, but they talk more shite.
All that aside
Spike Lee is still a twat.
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Reno said:
Wow, that's alot of directors, and yet always it's a Spike cunting Lee film that is bought to the worlds attention, this is even worse because there IS an alternative. This new information proves my point, and means that I'm even more right than before. Spike Lee, twat.
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Pigeon said:
That's definately an improvement then.
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Rutita1 said:Ermmm, I sure you already know the answer to that...
Spike Lee hasn't even appeared or been heard once so far.....and anyway why shouldn't he have something to say? Just because 'some' don't like him or appreciate his work doesn't mean his viewpoints are not valid.
My point exactly, just because some like him or appreciate his work doesn't mean his view points are valid. Just because some disagree that Spike Lee is a twat, doesn't mean he's not. Obviously he is a twat, but for the sake of argument an'at...
foreigner said:
So you're not talking about race then? Any black director could have made the film- the only qualification they'd need is to be black.
Spike Lee decided to make this film: possibly, just possibly, the fact that he's black is only one of a number of factors which made it an interesting subject for him.
