When does a painting become an illustration?

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by Stanley Edwards, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member

    Read it again. .

    Your assertion is not true.
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    touched a nerve i see
  3. bubblesmcgrath

    bubblesmcgrath Well-Known Member

    Just being more of a pedant than you..
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    yeh with all the aplomb of an eviscerated slow worm
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  5. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Slow worms are far more likely to lose their tails, which is what they do to avoid predators, than to be eviscerated.

    Been there, seen that, stick that in the things I’ve learned today.

    /Uber pedant.
  6. extra dry

    extra dry Happy to be here

    Paintings in general usually contain more than two or three colours. Illistrations usually only have one.
  7. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    Whats the difference between art and an architectural drawing Stanley ?
  8. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    Tell that to:

    Maurice Sendak
    Kate Greenaway
    Beatrix Potter
    Arthur Rackham
    Raymond Briggs
    Jill Barklem
    Kay Nielsen
    Maxfield Parrish
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  9. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    WTF happened here?

    I think the absolute definition is simply 'illustrations are intended for reproduction'. I look at my own paintings and think they look too much like illustrations (in a negative way). Not sure I am really understanding what I mean to say. The word, or term 'illustrative' seems to be a bad thing?
  10. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    A lot. I enjoy doing architectural sketches in the street. It is very nice work, and it pays fairly well. But, it is seen by most as a skill, and not an art. I will argue that all of my architectural sketches express myself - they are distinctly my sketches. There is an art to it, but it isn't like full on imaginative painting the way I would like to make money.
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  11. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Painting or illustration I remain amazed you don't save pictures to be sold in more salubrious environs than the street. I know a UK woman who has sold two pictures at least this year, but she sold them for £650 each. Think what you could be doing if you sold your pictures for £650 rather than what you get for them at the moment.
  12. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    I couldn't survive on 2 x €650 a year. I spend more than that a month on food and beer.
  13. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    My total gross income from the sale of art has just passed the €250,000 mark. Sounds impressive until you look at the net profit divided over the last 15 years. Then we are on a par with the average starter at McDonald's.

    The highest I have made from a single piece is €2,600. I am a lazy bastard. If I didn't have to make cash everyday, I wouldn't bother sketching. However, I have a brand new plan that will see me happily sorted for as long as needed. I might be lazy, but I am not greedy, or fame hungry either. I think you have to be one, or the other to be a financially successful artist.
  14. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    I don't think the terms are necessarily mutually exclusive. But i suppose illustration implies a simplicity of intent. That is, they represent images in a way that is largely free from non-literal meaning, complex emotion etc.
  15. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    My suggestion is that you sell them all for £650 each
  16. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    That's an interesting translation. Possibly a picture with no ambiguity. This sort of makes sense - a literal pictorial representation.
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  17. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral.

    €250,000 a year would be very nice, but I wouldn't be here then, and you would all miss me.

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