When a drone hits an aircraft wing

Discussion in 'science, nature and environment' started by editor, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus



    These drones are a fucking danger
     
  2. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    You should see what a frozen chicken will do! :eek:
     
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  3. Mrs D

    Mrs D . Banned

    "The researchers then fired a similarly weighted gel “bird” into a different part of the wing to compare results. “The bird did more apparent damage to the leading edge of the wing, but the Phantom penetrated deeper into the wing and damaged the main spar, which the bird did not do.”

    How many birds are there? How many aircraft wings are damaged by birds like this each year?
     
  4. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    1,835 confirmed birdstrike incidents in the UK in 2016.
    Around 95% of them from 2012-2016 involved no reported damage.

    (Civil Aviation Authority figures)
     
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  5. DownwardDog

    DownwardDog Riding a Brompton with a power meter.

    Lots, although it's a bird strike in an engine that's the real threat of a 'hull loss' (as the insurance company will term it).
     
  6. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    The biggest difference, imho, between drones and birds is that a bird is unlikely to be intentionally flown into the path of a passenger jet by an arsehole.
     
  7. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Engines are designed to withstand birdstrikes pretty well, though.
     
  8. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    It's an important point.
     
  9. nogojones

    nogojones Well-Known Member

    How about seagulls? They don't give a fuck
     
  10. HAL9000

    HAL9000 Lasting Damage

    Interesting vid, hopefully in most cases if a drone gets too close it will crash due to wake turbulence.

    German drone vs airbus in Afghanistan. Drone lost.



    Light aircraft vs helicopter wake



    Wake turbulence video shows typical pattern generated

     
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  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

  12. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    Oh no they're not.
     
  13. 2hats

    2hats

    What’s the question?
     
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  14. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    Wondered what your take on this drone / wing thing was
     
  15. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    I hope that research does not, repeat not, give some daft pratt stupid ideas !
     
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  17. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

    :thumbs:

    Drones are as dangerous as knives. If you give them to a prick, they might be dangerous.
     
  18. 2hats

    2hats

    Don’t fly drones in the vicinity of other aircraft.
     
  19. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    That slow motion is sublime though.
     
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  20. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    That's my main concern - I mean accidents happen, but a drone is small, the sky is big, one would hope that the odds of an inadvertent collision were very low. But I suspect it's only a matter of time before some imbecile tries to see if he can fly a drone into the engine of a jet. Planes have always been vulnerable to stuff getting in their way, and arseholes are nothing new, but what's different now is that any moron can buy a drone online for a few hundred quid & fly it with ease from a smartphone. The barriers to entry into the amateur psycho club are very low indeed.
     
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  21. 2hats

    2hats

    The most vulnerable phases will be the departure and finals where the aircraft is potentially within range of most commercial drones and engine loss is critical. Hence drone geofencing.
     
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  22. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    Is geofencing actually implemented on consumer drones? If I buy one off Amazon is there anything that would actually stop me from flying it across a commercial runway?
     
  23. 2hats

    2hats

    Some manufacturers implement it. Not that the same manufacturers won’t disable it for some reasons/on request or have been careless with their SDKs and left holes for people to walk through.
     
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  24. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    bloody great planes
     
  25. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    There are some rules, IIRC, that forbid flying drones near airfields / airports, as if that is going to stop certain types ...
     
  26. Like the ones I linked to in post #16 you mean?
     
  27. keybored

    keybored #NeverUseTheInternetAgain

    I don't know how smartphones interface with drones but I would imagine the operating range of Bluetooth or WiFi would be something of a barrier. Unless they were hoping to take out very low-flying planes.
     
  28. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    I don't think it would be Wi fi or Bluetooth for anything more than the little toys you annoy the cat with.
     
  29. I think drone phone apps are to trigger / interface with the camera on some models rather than fly it. It’s a bit more complex to fly one than what can be done by fiddling at a screen.
     
  30. cheesethief

    cheesethief Well-Known Member

    I think we need to ask a professional...

    Is there anyone here who has flown a drone?

    If so, how do you do it, and did you attempt to take down a 747 with it?
     

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