What's your being vaccinated priority?

[Jay Park]

Spain:

¿Cuáles son los 15 grupos de población prioritarios?

• Personal sanitario y sociosanitario. Health workers
• Personas residentes en centros de mayores. Old people's home residents
• Población general mayor de 64 años. People over 64
• Personas con gran discapacidad. Severely disabled people
• Personas con condiciones de riesgo. People with risky health conditions
• Personas que viven o trabajan en comunidades o entornos cerrados. People living or working in closed communities
• Personas pertenecientes a poblaciones vulnerables por su situación socioeconómica. People who are vulnerable due to their socio-economic situation
• Personas con trabajos esenciales. Key workers
• Personal docente. Educators
• Población infantil. Children
• Población adolescente y joven (mayores de 16 años). Teenagers and youth
• Población adulta. Adults
• Población de áreas de incidencia y situaciones de brotes. People in outbreak areas
• Embarazadas y madres que proporcionan lactancia natural. Pregnant and breast-feeding mothers
• Población seropositiva a SARS-CoV-2. Seropositive people

Seems a bit more nuanced. On this I'm in the 3rd group.

seems more nuanced but still, even knowing there has to be some kind of qualification for it, and on face value that seems right, still seems mad

 

[Jay Park]

So, if you already had a positive covid test, will they still offer you the vaccine? I'm guessing that would put you at the end of the queue and maybe get offered vaccine next Winter - assuming it'll be like the flu and there are yearly vaccinations...

I'm no. 10 but moving up to 9 next summer

Can't help but feel a little optimistic today. Happy V day!

I certainly hope those that have already tested positive aren’t excluded from initial vaccination, when it’s been proven that your body doesn’t necessarily develop anitbodies because of exposure beforehand

 

[Wilf]

Currently an 8, though I'll be a 7 by the time the vaccines are available.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

In my view I'm 1 because I'm more important than anyone else, but in the government's scheme further down.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I doubt it, given that teachers aren’t prioritised in that way and have access to less controllable protective measures (by virtue or the numbers of contacts at any one time).

Given that they are exposed to hordes of snotgoblins year after year, I would think teachers have bomb proof immune systems.

 

[Wilf]

Currently an 8, though I'll be a 7 by the time the vaccines are available.

In fact given this is likely to be next March onwards, at a guess, the issue is whether I'll be higher in the league than Man United.

 

[Teaboy]

Given that they are exposed to hordes of snotgoblins year after year, I would think teachers have bomb proof immune systems.

They do not. They are human that get ill like everyone else plus this is of course new to humanity.

You're weren't to know but spanglechick is actually off sick right now with confirmed covid.

 

[cupid_stunt]

In my view I'm 1 because I'm more important than anyone else, but in the government's scheme further down.

You are just below the seagulls getting it.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

You're weren't to know but spanglechick is actually off sick right now with confirmed covid.

Hope she's OK.

 

[Sasaferrato]

They do not. They are human that get ill like everyone else plus this is of course new to humanity.

You're weren't to know but spanglechick is actually off sick right now with confirmed covid.

Bollocks.

 

[Teaboy]

Hope she's OK.

I don't know her irl its just on the personal consequences thread. I think she's doing OK though.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I don't know her irl its just on the personal consequences thread. I think she's doing OK though.

Indeed. Horrible bloody thing to catch.

 

[spanglechick]

Hey. Well I’m not “ok” because it’s fucking horrible, but my fever is mostly under control now, so I’m just feeling rotten rather than being ultra shit, as I was yesterday.

 

[xenon]

Hey. Well I’m not “ok” because it’s fucking horrible, but my fever is mostly under control now, so I’m just feeling rotten rather than being ultra shit, as I was yesterday.

I hadn’t seen that post. All the best to you Spangles.

my mates wife, has just been diagnosed with it. She’s a teacher as well, they both are. Cold symptoms and loss of smell.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Sorry to hear this spanglechick and hope you feel a bit better soon x - good to hear you're better than you were.

 

[William of Walworth]

Adding my best wishes for spanglechick 's improvement and recovery -- good luck

 

[William of Walworth]

Also ......

From reports this morning, I won't be having the vaccine at all.

Some years back I had two severe reactions to food items, peach and apple. It is unlikely that I would be allowed to have the current vaccine.

Fuck!

Sounds awful, but were those any specifc type of allergies to those particular fruits?

I'm sure you're planning to seek medical advice on whether the same reactions could apply to Covid vaccines -- let's hope that in yours' and other allergic peoples' cases they mainly don't.

Good luck

 

[komodo]

I’ve had a text from Kings re arranging an appointment for coronavirus vaccination.
But it was really meant for 93 year old Dad. Good to know they are making a start on the 80 plus people.
Dad has moved to care home, tested positive for COVID a month ago, (no symptoms) and is delighted to be top of the list for the vaccine.

 

[Epona]

spanglechick I hope you make a swift recovery.

I can confirm that whenever I do charity work with youngsters (which is typically a different group of young teens to college age students each week) I get every fucking bug going, it is not the case that teachers or people who work with kids somehow build up immunity, this is why folks are so worried about the situation working in schools with Covid cases high right now, and why I haven't been working this year - because the non-core stuff I was doing last year simply hasn't been happening in the same way due to it being high risk of transmission.

In terms of vaccination priority, I am not in any of the current defined groups (I am nearly 50 but not quite, and although I do have some health issues they are not ones that put me particularly at risk). OH is in band 6, my parents in band 4.

 

[campanula]

7 for me, but sweetheart and D-I--L are both 4

 

[Helen Back]

I'm 58 so number 8 on the list unless my egg intolerance is classed as a disqualifying allergy then I'll have to wait for a different vaccine?

 

[scifisam]

I certainly hope those that have already tested positive aren’t excluded from initial vaccination, when it’s been proven that your body doesn’t necessarily develop anitbodies because of exposure beforehand

Er, you got a link for that?

 

[spanglechick]

Er, you got a link for that?

Dunno about the antibodies, but you can get COVID again. That’s definitely true.

 

[scifisam]

Dunno about the antibodies, but you can get COVID again. That’s definitely true.

Well, a few people worldwide have got it twice, yeah. But that's different to what Jay's claiming. Unless it turned out that it's an article with that kind of irrefutable but also not terribly meaningful phrasing like "it's possible that some people might not develop antibodies, but we don't know yet."

 

[Jay Park]

Er, you got a link for that?

let me have a look later, gonna have a John Walker and some fags x

as a caveat it could have been click bait speculation

 

[Jay Park]

Well, a few people worldwide have got it twice, yeah. But that's different to what Jay's claiming. Unless it turned out that it's an article with that kind of irrefutable but also not terrible meaningful phrasing like "it's possible that some people might not develop antibodies, but we don't know yet."

maybe it’s this. I’ll check for the link later

 

[Teaboy]

Well, a few people worldwide have got it twice, yeah.

I had assumed that but I think it may be a bit more serious than that. We have a poster here who works in a hospital where they have at least 4 cases where medics have had it twice and both times confirmed with relevant tests. I think maybe its just not being talked about much in the wider media.

Dunno if medics are particularly representative though and the role viral load plays (if any) etc etc

 

[scifisam]

I had assumed that but I think it may be a bit more serious than that. We have a poster here who works in a hospital where they have at least 4 cases where medics have had it twice and both times confirmed with relevant tests. I think maybe its just not being talked about much in the wider media.

Dunno if medics are particularly representative though and the role viral load plays (if any) etc etc

That definitely would be more serious, but also weird, because it isn't actually the sort of thing the media would ignore.

 

[Mation]

Is there any sort of tracker somewhere for numbers of people vaccinated thus far - something that would help us manage our expectations of when it will be our turn?

 

[elbows]

That definitely would be more serious, but also weird, because it isn't actually the sort of thing the media would ignore.

When it comes to health issues the media often have a limited set of trusted professional sources of information that they rely on. When studies and paper are published, thats well within the media comfort zone to report on, and when that doesnt happen there is much more likely to be silence. Exceptions often only happen when there is a health care scandal of some kind, or when a compelling personal story involving anecdotal evidence captures press attention, or when the weight of informal evidence grows too large to ignore.

There are also plenty of misconceptions when it comes to the difference between there not being sufficient formal evidence to clearly demonstrate something, and something being unlikely to be true. There are all manner of things in this pandemic where there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate something, but where the something in question may still actually be a fairly widespread phenomenon.

When I hear about a few documented cases of reinfection, I form no opinion about how common this is, and the lack of supporting evidence and data most certainly does not lead me to a premature conclusion. Time usually solves the lack of evidence one way or another.