What's wrong with 'local jobs for local people'?

[durruti02]

durutti, i moved to london. got a job on more money than i've ever earned. should i jack it in and go back to the black country?


as for "local jobs" getting rid of the boom bust cycle? did you just make that up? off the top of your head?

but this is how capitalism works .. i can't remember the jargon but it NEEDS rich and poor areas .. millions, billions of us follow capital around .. what we NEED to say is the we need real sustainable economies where people live or want to live ..

the boom and bust cycle is the exaggerrated nature of capitalism where capital rushes or concentrates on certain areas and labour is forced to migrate there .. it is is idiotic and unsustainable and causes misery to millions ..by demanding real work where people live we demand that everyone makes decisons about what they need instead of just being part of capitals boom and bust

 

[durruti02]

the wealth stays where it is. rich areas pay better than poor ones, inequality becomes more entrenched.

thats way too simplistic a way to look at this .. why is hampstead rich etc etc .. partly as it has concentrated the money of all those who have exploited the world over

 

[durruti02]

Quite honestly durutti, I don't see how my picture is affecting the overall quality of the thread, so on reflection I won't be editing it out.

well clearly as you feel the thread is weak by your overused graphic you could make it more interesting with a more usefull contribution

 

[belboid]

thats way too simplistic a way to look at this

YOU are having a go at someone for being too simplistic!!!

Oh the irony

 

[kyser_soze]

well clearly as you feel the thread is weak by your overused graphic you could make it more interesting with a more usefull contribution

I made most of my feelings on this issue clear on the main thread about this - the Laval ruling is wrong, giving too much leeway to companies to simply move their choice of labour around; this should not be the case; the solution is a free applications system, whereby anyone qualified to do the work can apply for the job throughout the EU.

 

[tbaldwin]

Don't know. Yes, people are desparate for jobs and they should fight to get and retain them, but trying to get preference for British labour over others is not the way to go about it, IMO

If it stops people being shipped over by greedy employers? If it stops them having to leave their families? If it helps to keep local communities together? WHY?

Over 50% of new jobs in the UK went to foreign workers in the last few years.
What group of people do you think were most likely to get left behind as workers from Eastern Europe came to compete for Jobs and Housing?
The Young, the Low skilled and ethnic minorities.

Are you a racist Spion?

 

[Spion]

If it stops people being shipped over by greedy employers? If it stops them having to leave their families? If it helps to keep local communities together? WHY?

Over 50% of new jobs in the UK went to foreign workers in the last few years.
What group of people do you think were most likely to get left behind as workers from Eastern Europe came to compete for Jobs and Housing?
The Young, the Low skilled and ethnic minorities.

Are you a racist Spion?

LOL You what?

I want jobs to be defended and am for workers taking action to force the bosses to create jobs for as many who need them, regardless of nationality. I'm not for jobs to be given to British workers in preference to overseas workers.

 

[JimW]

LOL You what?

I want jobs to be defended and am for workers taking action to force the bosses to create jobs for as many who need them, regardless of nationality. I'm not for jobs to be given to British workers in preference to overseas workers.

If you're going to hide behind pie-in-the-sky at least go the whole hog and call for collectives, not begging jobs off the bosses.

 

[audiotech]

Important to remember that most hate working for a multi-national in any capacity.

Pledges Pickles or Aufedersein Pet?

Fuck em!

 

[Spion]

If you're going to hide behind pie-in-the-sky at least go the whole hog and call for collectives, not begging jobs off the bosses.

If you're going to stick to begging for crumbs from the bosses' table at least have the honesty to defend that position rather than deflect attention from it by slagging those that call for action to new jobs created

 

[JimW]

If you're going to stick to begging for crumbs from the bosses' table at least have the honesty to defend that position rather than deflect attention from it by slagging those that call for action to new jobs created

My position was to back the strikers - turns out they won; yours was to join in with the slurs.

 

[Spion]

My position was to back the strikers - turns out they won; yours was to join in with the slurs.

I'm sure they appreciate your valuable support. Anyway, I'd have had the same criticisms of the strike's aims even if I'd supported the strike. And I do support them in their struggle for jobs, but that wasn't the right way to do it.

So, 102 British workers got jobs. 100 Italian workers who were going to get jobs lost that opportunity. I'd prefer if all had got them rather than British workers effectively push others out of the queue. The strikers might have well have stood at the gates and barred Italians from passing. That's the net result.