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what's the *worst* lefty paper?

a) - you have not worked in my school, just so everyone knows. You did your college placement there which involved you doing a small part of someone's timetable especially selected for you and writing some daft essay.

b) - no matter what you may think about everyone confiding in you - noone can remember who you are. Unlike another username of U75, who knows mains (or is it milesy?)and a few others very well, who also was a student teacher at our place, did a grand effort at a very tough placement, and is now working in a PRU. We remember him well, went for a meal on his last day, and often ask about him, respect to A. You don't fucking register pal.

c) - you may have been asked to come down to the pub after work one Friday during your month's visit. If we'd have known you were there compiling a report on the conversations and attitudes of a group of stressed-out public servants getting pissed at the end of the week, I doubt you would have been accommodated so fucking graciously. Small wonder you don't go out with your work at the end of the week/term.

d) - I was probably going through my SWP stage when you were there. Isn't it amazing how I still can't recall ever seeing a Trotty student at my work. A few anarchists, yeah, even a Stalinist ex-CPGBer once, but your presence doesn't register (yet again)

e) - you have publicly claimed on these boards to have met two of my ex-colleagues, yet when asked TWICE by me via PM, you have not expanded upon this. As PCG stated, this is low and a bit shite really.

f) - you are a gobshite, son. More later.
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What do you want to know?

(a) apologies if I misled anyone by using 'worked'?
(b) that's fine. I'm not sure about the 'confiding' bit.
(c) Yes, ok.
(d) I don't think you were (going through the SWP stage), considering the conversation we had. I just remember you holding some very dodgy views. I didn't realise that was actually you (I thought you were someone else) until recently. I have told you why I remember you now, and why I remember you (much much more than I thought I remembered you). I remember wondering if it was ok for a teacher to hold those views (obviously naively at that time). I also remember it being the conversation that partially led to my 'flounce' from your school - taking the last two weeks off 'sick'. (As I said a fair few times, it was the most difficult school I taught in, and I didn't like anything about it at all). This was also the conversation I very much recalled when writing my ill advised public attack on you when returning from a night at the pub, and fairly drunk.
(e) Not biting, sorry. But I apologise for writing 'worked' again. One was offered a job, there I believe.

I'm not sure what you wanted.

Just for reference. I hadn't seen this post until I just searched for it.

But that's it mate. Any more and you'll wait a long time. I don't want to come on here to repeat this laundry stuff - and shouldn't have before.

But the 'not engaging' stands and I hope to stick to it. I presume you will have no problem with that.
 
Have you or have you not met a couple of my ex-colleagues and in what circumstances? Who?

How can anyone expect to confide in you if you claim to have told stuff to your mates (the b, silentnate etc) about another poster, but refused to meet the consequences?

Tell me who...initials please.

(I have been told already)
 
ernestolynch said:
Have you or have you not met a couple of my ex-colleagues and in what circumstances? Who?

How can anyone expect to confide in you if you claim to have told stuff to your mates (the b, silentnate etc) about another poster, but refused to meet the consequences?

Tell me who...initials please.

(I have been told already)

The only way I think you can know is through JC - who is married to an older HoY who used to be a HoH at my first teaching practice school - but I'm not sure exactly who (though you never told me he was working there - you only told me about your head - who was a HoH with him)

The only person even related to your school that I believe either of these people still know - and that's because she was in the support staff at my first school. Only one of them had a good experience.
 
YOu said that you met two ex-colleagues of mine who slagged me off. I have proof of this from other posters here. Yet when I asked you to substantiate you prevaricate and pussyfoot around. You're the queen of arsery, FLI. Put up or shut up.
 
I was looking at the Northern Star - published by the remnant of the British and Irish Communist Organisation - and it really has gone off the deep end.

There's a piece by Angela Clifford which makes some good points about the way the RPF regime in Rwanda may be exploiting the genocide of 1994 for its own ends - but that piece then went over the edge into David Irving territory.
 
I suppose they overreacted to the uncritical Irish nationalist perspective of much of the left of the time.

Wasn't Alexei Sayle a member?
 
Idris2002 said:
I suppose they overreacted to the uncritical Irish nationalist perspective of much of the left of the time.

Wasn't Alexei Sayle a member?
Might have been, though the bulk of their membership always seemed to be academics of one stripe or another. One of them is/was Trimbles senior adviser i believe.
 
You should meet my supervisor, Ern.

She told me once she went on a party tour of Albania.

They were shown a collective farm where cows had the music of Scarlatti played to them in the milking station, to increase yields. . .
 
Nigel Irritable said:
Then Newsline, the WRP's daily colour paper. On the upside it has a tv guide and sports coverage.

I understand that they have unfortunately stopped printing this now. But does the WRP still exist?

Most interesting is a constant unsolved mystery - did they really get their money from Libya and is that the reason for their recent demise? And if if they did how and why? Is they really any actual evidence?

Questions, questions, questions....
 
Yes - and they still print it most days!
Yes, as well as Iraq.
No - their demise was because they were off their heads.

Use the search button thing for WRP & several threads will come up detailing answers at length.
 
belboid said:
Yes - and they still print it most days!
Yes, as well as Iraq.
No - their demise was because they were off their heads.

Use the search button thing for WRP & several threads will come up detailing answers at length.

Can't really find any conclusive proof. Every group suffers accusations of secret funding or infiltration.

What I don't really understand is why such funds, and they must have been big to fund the worlds only Trotsyist daily newspaper which was also in FULL COLOUR for years, should have gone only to the WRP. It must have been the most ineffectual Party on the left.
 
Older posters may recall anorgancalled "News On Sunday" a popularist left-wing tabloid in the late 80s.

I only have a dim recollection so cant say how good /bad it was for sure, but it bombed pretty sharpish.

Does this ring any nostalgic bells?
 
The WRP were the only relatively large, non-Stalinist, socialist organisation willing to whore themselves out to dictatorships. That's why they got the money and not say, Militant or the SWP.

As for the BICO, Butchers is thinking of Paul Bew I suspect. According to the possibly not entirely reliable Brendan Clifford (BICO's main leader) Bew was associated on the quiet with the Workers Party rather than BICO. Bew went on to be an advisor of David Trimble's, but some of his earlier work with Patterson and Gibbon is well worth reading. It was heavily influenced by Althusser, which isn't always a recommendation and it has obvious political biases but there hasn't been all that much serious Marxist scholarship on Irish history. Another BICO alumnus is John Lloyd.
 
Socialist News, the paper occasionally put out by Scargill's fan club is absolutely dire. I've never come across a more boring paper.

Hot on its heels are the Morning Star and New Worker. You actually feel cheated if you've paid for either of these sorry rags.

And at a risk of offending Brian The Socialist is a terrible newspaper - just like its Socialist Worker rival. I do not understand why so many groups feel the need to talk down to "normal" working class people. It's sad that even the Sun is a better written and interesting paper than much of the "radical" press.

:(
 
stevendurrant said:
Older posters may recall anorgancalled "News On Sunday" a popularist left-wing tabloid in the late 80s.

I only have a dim recollection so cant say how good /bad it was for sure, but it bombed pretty sharpish.

Does this ring any nostalgic bells?

Yes it was John Pilger's project. Advertised as a paper with no tits but plenty of balls. The first edition broke the official secrets act by publishing an MOD canteen menu in a gesture to show that the act was a stupid infringement of free speach. We all desperately tried to like it but it was dull. It died because it got no advertising revenue to speak of - effective boycott by business. But it was launched at a diffcult time anyway and, as I said, it was sadly a little dull.
 
'Newsline', the Workers Revolutionary Party newspaper, is really quite bad.

As is 'Workers' - the paper of the Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist).

And I can't read 'Socialist Worker' no matter how hard I might try.
 
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