What's The Nearest PC Equivalent To Garageband?

[jæd]

Which is one thing when you're just compiling or filing, but when you're in the midst of creativity and all that is lost forever just because of one stupid fucking machine... sorry, bitter experience and all that.

Even with compiling you don't want the development machine crashing on you, espcially since it can quite a lot of intensive cpu time... And it can take a while to complete the compile. At the moment my fav machine to use is my MacBook since it has lots of cpu power.

Not to say that PCs can't do the the same. Ubuntu is just as good.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Anyhoos, who gives a fuck, the forum for arse acheingly dull mac vs pc threads is thataway --------------->

 

[jæd]

Anyhoos, who gives a fuck, the forum for arse acheingly dull mac vs pc threads is thataway --------------->

But we must take this seriously...!

 

[editor]

And they all would prefer to use a Mac!

Perhaps in your Mac obsessed dreams, yes. But seeing as we're dealing with the real world here, please take your Jobsie-lovin' fantasies to the nearest iRub cubicle and have a nice iFrag.

Ithankyou.

My studio PC has never crashed, ever, in over 4 years of fairly heavy use.

My mates new mac (running Logic and Reason) crashed within an hour of him buying it

Aw. Don't make pk cry.

 

[pk]

Perhaps in your Mac obsessed dreams, yes. But seeing as we're dealing with the real world here, please take your Jobsie-lovin' fantasies to the nearest iRub cubicle and have a nice iFrag.

Ithankyou.

The real world demands I deliver projects on time - alas on your beloved PC's such a thing is impossible without spending £££££ to bring it up to speed.

Also, the high end PC's needed are forbidden to be connected to the net because the viruses kill them.

Which can be a bit of a pain.

And I'm open minded enough to look into buying an Asus Eeee - until I found out it wouldn't be able to run Vista.

Oh well...

 

[pk]

My mates new mac (running Logic and Reason) crashed within an hour of him buying it

Of course he'd plugged it in to a piece of hardware like an M-Audio card without installing the proper drivers first, right?

Same would have happened on a PC.

 

[Fruitloop]

Not being able to run Vista is a positive bonus I would have thought.

 

[pk]

Not being able to run Vista is a positive bonus I would have thought.

I wouldn't know, never used it.

Im assured it's almost as good as OSX when it works.

 

[editor]

Also, the high end PC's needed are forbidden to be connected to the net because the viruses kill them.

Whoever said that is a fucking moron of the highest order.

Need I remind you? http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9905095-37.html

 

[jæd]

Whoever said that is a fucking moron of the highest order.

Need I remind you? http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9905095-37.html

A little over two weeks after the flaw was utilized to hack into Mac OS X, Apple says it fixed the security issue (CVE-2008-1026) where a maliciously crafted web page may lead to an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution due to a heap buffer overflow in WebKit's handling of JavaScript regular expressions. Apple's newly patched browser addresses the issue by performing additional validation of JavaScript regular expressions.

http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/04/16/safari.firefox.patched/

So this leetle hole is patched.

 

[editor]

So this leetle hole is patched.

Jolly good. Of course, you missed the entire point that in that test the Windows PC resisted all attempts to be hacked by the pro team until the last hours of the very last day - which rather makes the 'advice' given out by pk's firm look a bit stupid.

It takes just a few minutes to make a Windows PC safe for everyday use and it costs absolutely nothing too. The programs are free, the updates are free and it's all done automatically.

Of course - just as the Mac test proved - nothing is 100% foolproof against the most determined of hackers.


So can we move on from the tedious Mac vs PC bullshit?

 

[jæd]

Jolly good. Of course, you missed the entire point that in that test the Windows PC resisted all attempts to be hacked by the pro team until the last hours of the very last day - which rather makes the 'advice' given out by pk's firm look a bit stupid.

I was just pointing out that that particular hole has been blocked...

Disclaimer : There may be other holes somewhere. This post is the opinion of the poster and may not be used in a court of law. Use any o/s at your own risk, etc...

 

[pk]

Jolly good. Of course, you missed the entire point that in that test the Windows PC resisted all attempts to be hacked by the pro team until the last hours of the very last day - which rather makes the 'advice' given out by pk's firm look a bit stupid.

It's not just one firm... it's just about every system I've worked on.

So that'll be the BBC's suites, Sky, ITN, all the major players and several hundred smaller companies - not one of them will have their high end multi ££££ PC kit connected to the net.
Those that haven't had the sense to get rid of them.

Yet the Mac's usually are. In fact they're often used to download scripts and stuff to be used in the PC systems, because there's less risk of virus attacks.

So can we move on from the tedious Mac vs PC bullshit?

I find it funny, and I can't understand why you've always been so militant against Mac versus PC debates when you have a keen interest in smart technology.

 

[editor]

I find it funny, and I can't understand why you've always been so militant against Mac versus PC debates when you have a keen interest in smart technology.

Maybe because I'm not interested in endlessly disrupting threads with all this 'my computer OS is better than yours' nonsense.

It's really, really boring. You prefer Macs. You think PCs are rubbish. Great. We've all got the message by now and your opinion has been registered loud and clear.

Now how about you respect the equally well informed choices of professionals in other areas who know their jobs just as well as you and prefer to use Windows machines?

 

[pk]

The BBC is stuffed full of thousands - if not tens of thousands - of PCs connected to the web.

Not their edit systems or high end audio suites. None of them. Not one.
It is not allowed!

Maybe because I'm not interested in endlessly disrupting threads with all this 'my computer OS is better than yours' nonsense.

This thread has served it's initial purpose, advice given (and seemingly ignored).

This is now about people working in music using PC or Mac. Since you don't work in music using PC or Mac... can you not leave it to people who do?

It's really, really boring. You prefer Macs. You think PCs are rubbish. Great. We've all got the message by now and your opinion has been registered loud and clear.

Now how about you respect the equally well informed choices of professionals in other areas who know their jobs just as well as you and prefer to use Windows machines?

The professionals in other areas have their own threads.

This is about the area of music (and assembling live media in general, including video), and the reliability thereof.

 

[editor]

This thread has served it's initial purpose, advice given (and seemingly ignored).

This is now about people working in music using PC or Mac. Since you don't work in music using PC or Mac... can you not leave it to people who do?

Actually, the thread starter asked for advice on obtaining the PC equivalent of GarageBand.

I don't recall him announcing that he intended to build and kit out a "high end audio suite" or requesting a lecture about the abilities of hugely expensive professional equipment that he hasn't the faintest interest in, nor the budget to buy.

I don't imagine that your deeply predictable, 'PCs are shit and I know best about everything to do with computers' lecture did him much good either.

There's a time and a place for enthusing about massively expensive equipment for professional engineers and musicians but this thread most certainly was not it, and your Mac loving/PC-damning 'advice' is completely irrelevant because the OP.... has a PC.

 

[pk]

Actually, the thread starter asked for advice on obtaining the PC equivalent of GarageBand.

There isn't one. Not that comes free with the basic kit, as Han pointed out earlier.

I don't recall him announcing that he intended to build and kit out a "high end audio suite" or requesting a lecture about the abilities of hugely expensive professional equipment that he hasn't the faintest interest in, nor the budget to buy.

Oh come on, that's not stopping me having a rant though is it?
I've lost precious time and indeed money trying to battle my way through jobs because of shitty equipment provided - not all PC based I might add - and it's my prerogative to moan about it.

I don't imagine that your deeply predictable, 'PCs are shit and I know best about everything to do with computers' lecture did him much good either.

I know fuck all about computers, really, my extent of programming didn't last much farther than '10 print "fuckshitbollocks" - 20 goto 10 - run".

I do know about the limitations of using software in machines in this field having done so as a career for over 15 years, so forgive me if that makes me sound like I know "best".

If a machine doesn't fucking work, it's useless to me.

Don't take it so personally whenever I choose to shit on the capabilities of machines to do their job properly, would be my advice.

There's a time and a place for enthusing about massively expensive equipment for professional engineers and musicians but this thread most certainly was not it, and your Mac loving/PC-damning 'advice' is completely irrelevant because the OP.... has a PC.

Point being - my options in reality are ten times LESS expensive than the PC route.

I don't imagine that your deeply predictable, 'PCs are NOT shit and Macs are just for iWankers, I know best about everything to do with computers' lecture is doing this thread much good either.

But what would I know? I'm merely subjectively adding to the thread according to my experiences. One of my shows went out today - we lost two fucking days work because some twat decided to take the PC/Avid route instead of Apple.

So that meant me staying very late and starting way too early to meet the deadlines.

Forgive me if I have a personal reason to piss on the very idea that PC machines can handle flying media.

I still don't want an iPhone yet, by the way.