What's in your arsenal?
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lobster said:
You misunderstand me - I don't mean that one or other is incapable of running home or server applications - although I'd be interested to see if you can find me a server that runs something like Call of Duty 2 at 100fps with all the nobs and whistles on.
I'd say it's a little more than a recommendation and that both servers and home computers (although we're generalising a lot there) are designed to be fit for purpose. Granted the lines between them can become blurred.
You also say that you clearly understand that there are reasons for each type of computer and then rule out performance as a benchmark.
What type of performance are you ruling out? If you're talking about millions of instructions per second then surely you'd want to measure that for your server - if you're talking millions of polygons on screen then surely you wouldn't care about that for the server.
What's in your arsenal BTW?
lobster
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>>You misunderstand me - I don't mean that one or other is incapable of running home or server applications - although I'd be interested to see if you can find me a server that runs something like Call of Duty 2 at 100fps with all the nobs and whistles on.
I'd say it's a little more than a recommendation and that both servers and home computers (although we're generalising a lot there) are designed to be fit for purpose. Granted the lines between them can become blurred.
You also say that you clearly understand that there are reasons for each type of computer and then rule out performance as a benchmark.
What type of performance are you ruling out? If you're talking about millions of instructions per second then surely you'd want to measure that for your server - if you're talking millions of polygons on screen then surely you wouldn't care about that for the server.
What's in your arsenal BTW?<<
My judgment is unrealistic, after all performance is one of the reasons for getting a server or home. At least we agree on that.
my box that i am typing this is a amd-64 3200+ (venice)
1024mb ddr400mhz pc3200 184-pin dimm
gigabyte 6600gt pci-e 256mb
maxtor diamondmax plus 9 120gb sata 8mb cache
asus a8v-e se motherboard 939 sk
the other box beside me is
p3 800mhz
128mb ram
nvidia tnt 2 32mb
30gb hd
I'd say it's a little more than a recommendation and that both servers and home computers (although we're generalising a lot there) are designed to be fit for purpose. Granted the lines between them can become blurred.
You also say that you clearly understand that there are reasons for each type of computer and then rule out performance as a benchmark.
What type of performance are you ruling out? If you're talking about millions of instructions per second then surely you'd want to measure that for your server - if you're talking millions of polygons on screen then surely you wouldn't care about that for the server.
What's in your arsenal BTW?<<
My judgment is unrealistic, after all performance is one of the reasons for getting a server or home. At least we agree on that.
my box that i am typing this is a amd-64 3200+ (venice)
1024mb ddr400mhz pc3200 184-pin dimm
gigabyte 6600gt pci-e 256mb
maxtor diamondmax plus 9 120gb sata 8mb cache
asus a8v-e se motherboard 939 sk
the other box beside me is
p3 800mhz
128mb ram
nvidia tnt 2 32mb
30gb hd
lobster said:
I'd be interested to see you run Word or Excel on a server that isn't running any kind of Windows Manager. I'd be also interested to see you run a recent game on a server that doesn't have any kind of (3d other wise) graphics card...
Yep, you can run consumer hardware and OS as a server, but unless your doing it as hobbyist it will bite you...!
lobster
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>>I'd be interested to see you run Word or Excel on a server that isn't running any kind of Windows Manager. I'd be also interested to see you run a recent game on a server that doesn't have any kind of (3d other wise) graphics card...<<
Depending on the office package you use the enviroment will be diffrent, but lets suppose its x-windows which will run on any server.
If the game requires a 3d video card and there is not one present , of course its not going to work, i am sure server computers have pci-e compatible slots.
>>I'd have thought the ability to serve things reliably would be the point of a server at home...? If you want performance then design a PC for it... <<
are you saying realibility is found on servers but performance is found on home pcs? Why would one want a stable server that is slow? I would hate to run a thin clients on a slow server.
Depending on the office package you use the enviroment will be diffrent, but lets suppose its x-windows which will run on any server.
If the game requires a 3d video card and there is not one present , of course its not going to work, i am sure server computers have pci-e compatible slots.
>>I'd have thought the ability to serve things reliably would be the point of a server at home...? If you want performance then design a PC for it... <<
are you saying realibility is found on servers but performance is found on home pcs? Why would one want a stable server that is slow? I would hate to run a thin clients on a slow server.
I think the point is that for some sorts of server - file or web for instance - you don't (necessarily) require a great deal of CPU power and are likely to have a fairly basic graphics card in it. This is probably the case whether we're talking tower case based server or rack mounted kit.
You can comfortably use a P3 Linux box, for example, to serve mp3s on a home network without ever coming close to overstressing it.
If you're serving high-density user applications on a corporate WAN, you'd probably want something a bit more powerful.
I could be wrong and this may not be the point, of course.
You can comfortably use a P3 Linux box, for example, to serve mp3s on a home network without ever coming close to overstressing it.
If you're serving high-density user applications on a corporate WAN, you'd probably want something a bit more powerful.
I could be wrong and this may not be the point, of course.
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And cut us some slack when we act like n00b lamerz,
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