What's happening at the Living Bah?

[Yelkcub]

"look different...." "fuck off back to your own country...."

Sure. Great metaphor.

For racism, that is,

I can see what he was trying to say - that your appeared to be showing dislike for people not like you/from where you are from.

The old thread linked above gives it some context though.

 

[Crispy]

It was an exageration to make a point. If you thought he was actually calling you a racist, then you either read it wrong, or just took the maximum offence possible on purpose.

 

[editor]

I can see what he was trying to say - that your appeared to be showing dislike for people not like you/from where you are from.

Could you tell me where I "appeared to be showing dislike for people not like you/from where you are from"?

I only mentioned punters taxiing into the Bar in response to kyser_soze's claim that it's stuffed full of locals.
Try looking back through the thread.

 

[editor]

It was an exageration to make a point. If you thought he was actually calling you a racist, then you either read it wrong, or just took the maximum offence possible on purpose.

I don't like people stuffing words in my mouth, especially when it's versed in racist language (and you would agree that a phrase like " "fuck off back to your own country...." is often to be found in the racist repertoire, yes?).

Either way, his 'argument,' sorry, 'metaphor' is bullshit. Oh well.

 

[pootle]

FOCPMSL...local meat market more like it.

Slightly o/t but is just me or does anyone else think the White Horse is a total meat market too. I wouldn't really mind but it's the pretence that it's something altogether better than that when in fact it wouldn't be out of place in Croydon, imho.

And I like Mango Landin'. Does that make me a bad person?

 

[Yelkcub]

The Living Bar is famous for out-of-towners taxi-ing in on a Saturday night and then staggering out at 3am and jumping straight into a cab. And there were good reasons why many locals stopped drinking there.

I don't know anyone from Brixton who regularly drank there and the bar was held in more or less universal contempt by many because of the attitude of its owners. Do a search on these boards and you'll see what I mean.

The identification of 'out-of-towners' coupled with 'good reasons why locals stopped drinking there' seems value laden. If it was not intended so I accept that, but think you should accept how it appears.

 

[Yelkcub]

Could you tell me where I "appeared to be showing dislike for people not like you/from where you are from"?

I only mentioned punters taxiing into the Bar in response to kyser_soze's claim that it's stuffed full of locals.
Try looking back through the thread.

For clarity my post above was a response to yours here.

 

[editor]

The identification of 'out-of-towners' coupled with 'good reasons why locals stopped drinking there' seems value laden. If it was not intended so I accept that, but think you should accept how it appears.

Mrs M had already offered some of the good reasons why locals stopped drinking there (post #10), as had Chris Filter in post #11 and anyone with local knowledge would know of many other reasons too.

 

[Errol's son]

I would have thought that Living did benefit some of the other establishments on Coldharbour.

I didn't like Living as I am a bit old and the music was too loud and there weren't many seats.

So the few times I went, I ended up leaving and going for a meal in that Ethiopian place.

I would have thought Living brought them a few customers and that noodle shop.

 

[kyser_soze]

Slightly o/t but is just me or does anyone else think the White Horse is a total meat market too. I wouldn't really mind but it's the pretence that it's something altogether better than that when in fact it wouldn't be out of place in Croydon, imho.

And I like Mango Landin'. Does that make me a bad person?

On a Saturday night, definitely, but none compare with the splendour that was the Clapham Grand...that was almost like being back home in Essex for me...

 

[editor]

I would have thought that Living did benefit some of the other establishments on Coldharbour.

I can honestly say I've never spoken to a local business/resident that's had a good word to say about the place for a wide variety of reasons.

But it's not really appropriate to post up what I've heard here (happy to tell people if I see them in the pub though)

 

[newbie]

so anyway, what's wrong with the building becoming a nailbar or something?

 

[twistedAM]

so anyway, what's wrong with the building becoming a nailbar or something?

Well, surely it should get restored to it original beautiful facade. It's listed isn't it?

 

[editor]

so anyway, what's wrong with the building becoming a nailbar or something?

Do you think that's a suitable use for a pub that has served the community for over a 100 years?

Why do you think Brixton needs another nailbar?

 

[tarannau]

Well it's not as though we're short of old pub buildings. It's the lack of decent pubs that are the problem.

 

[newbie]

Do you think that's a suitable use for a pub that has served the community for over a 100 years?

Why do you think Brixton needs another nailbar?

you brought nailbars and fried chicken shops into the discussion in order to tell us that you'd 'hate' to see it become one. I don't understand what you have against them.

 

[tarannau]

I'm actually with Newbie on this one. I'm not the greatest fan of stuck-on nails, but you can't doubt the appeal of Nail Bars (Or fried chicken) places to the local community.

The chances of a nail bar choosing such an overspecced property are, unsurprisingly, low.

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm also intrigued by this idea of pubs 'serving' the community. How do they serve the community, other then being places where you can legally buy an addictive and debilitating drug? I wonder how many women have been hit over the years when their old man's come back from the community pub pissed, having spent a week's wages in there?

 

[editor]

I'm also intrigued by this idea of pubs 'serving' the community. How do they serve the community, other then being places where you can legally buy an addictive and debilitating drug?

You don't think pubs can play a part in a local community's social life?

What a bizarre opinion.

 

[editor]

you brought nailbars and fried chicken shops into the discussion in order to tell us that you'd 'hate' to see it become one. I don't understand what you have against them.

I've got nothing against nail bars but I fancy Brixton reached saturation point some time ago and would hate to see a struggling business let the fine old building go to rack and ruin as a result. It's been trashed enough as the Living Bar after all.

Same applies to fried chicken shops and, to be honest, I'm fed up wading through fly-covered, rat attracting discarded chicken bones and plastic boxes and bags every time I leave my house.

I believe as a local resident I'm entitled to hold an opinion on the subject.

 

[tarannau]

Pubs do serve the community though. Much of my family's early life in this country was aided by 'Brian from the pub' and his network of plumbers,painters and repairmen from the local that he could summon at short notice and at low cost.

The same applies now, albeit to a lesser extent. I find the assortment of local workmen, friends and acquaintances built up over the years immensely helpful - there's a ready made support network that you can step into when needed. It's not much I know, but it was kind of reassuring that in the aftermath of the the London bus bombings, everyone left work early and headed straight to the local, w - not just to drink themselves silly, but to check on others and socialise. It was one of the busiest days seen in there, with the fabled Dunkirk spirit much in evidence. Long may that continue.

 

[kyser_soze]

You don't think pubs can play a part in a local community's social life?

What a bizarre opinion.

I'd like to know what and how they fulfill this function. Other than being places to drink.

 

[editor]

I'd like to know what and how they fulfill this function. Other than being places to drink.

Isn't it blazingly obvious?

 

[tarannau]

And you don't think shared experiences and events can help build community Kyser?

I've still massively fond memories of eating bacon sarnies at 9 in the morning whilst watcching the last World Cup in the pub. And of the joyful scenes after beating Argentina - a seemingly never ending conga snaking down Brixton Hill, traffic stopped and smiling, horns a beeping and massive grins all round.

On the other side,a number of wakes have helped properly see off much loved members of the community.

 

[newbie]

I believe as a local resident I'm entitled to hold an opinion on the subject.

of course, I just didn't really understand it.

I'd like to the building taken out of the night economy and brought into the mainstream, daytime, sphere where it can provide decent employment opportunities. A nailbar is actually quite a good example of just that, although I have to agree it may not be the ideal premises.

 

[editor]

I'd like to the building taken out of the night economy and brought into the mainstream, daytime, sphere where it can provide decent employment opportunities.

Oh come on! Nailbars are hardly big employers providing great, well paid opportunities to the local community.

 

[Crispy]

bar work's not much better

 

[Errol's son]

Perhaps it should become an estate agency?

Estate agents aren't too badly paid are they?

 

[Crispy]

heh

 

[tarannau]

What retail shops do by that measure? If anything nail bars should be fairly profitable - hell, constantly maintaining those nails is a crack like addiction.

Equally, quite often nail bars offer 'chairs' on a self employed basis, so there's a degree of flexibiity and incentive for individuals. Surely better than a minimum wage Saturday job down WH Smiths?