What's happening at the Living Bah?

[kyser_soze]

Wasn't always like that, apparently - if you read the thread I linked, you can see the History the place has on these boards.

Hmm, seems that 'history' is the right word. I think the last 2 times I was in there was about 3 years ago (counts...was seeing Shan then...)yup, would've been this time of year 3 years ago, the Xmas before I met Wrysmile...have walked past it loads since and always seen a crowd not at all unlike the people who visit dance bars all over the UK (altho they would generally be the types who would commit the cardinal sins of buying coffee from Starbucks or Costa, possibly drinking in a *CHAIN PUB*, or eat KFC or Macs...)

 

[editor]

The funniest thing is. the people I've seen in Living are just as representative of local Brixtonians as anywhere else in the area - most of the people I've met in there live locally,

You've got to be joking, right? The Living Bar is famous for out-of-towners taxi-ing in on a Saturday night and then staggering out at 3am and jumping straight into a cab. And there were good reasons why many locals stopped drinking there.

I don't know anyone from Brixton who regularly drank there and the bar was held in more or less universal contempt by many because of the attitude of its owners. Do a search on these boards and you'll see what I mean.

 

[kyser_soze]

Hmm, and when was the last time you were in there ed?

And I hate to break it to you, but there are about 100,000 other people who live in Brixton and it's environs who don't post on Urban - indeed, probably those same people who eat in Macs, KFC etc regularly. These boards are not the be all and end all of Brixton's population. I mean, how many people regularly visit Zee bar here? Not very many I suspect, but the times I've been in there it's always been busy with people whom, when I have asked them where they're from, are overwhelmingly from...Brixton...

I mean aside from someone who lives in a city using the phrase out-of-towners being the funniest thing ever, and evidence of seriously parochial thinking...

 

[potential]

You've got to be joking, right? The Living Bar is famous for out-of-towners taxi-ing in on a Saturday night and then staggering out at 3am and jumping straight into a cab. And there were good reasons why many locals stopped drinking there.
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How dare these outsiders spend money in brixton, shoot em i say !!!
why dont you just turn the argument around
ie... a load of brixtonites go to a pub in battersea and then the locals start
whith the same drivel ? oh them lot there not local they look different why dont you fuck off back to your own country is that what your sayin

 

[kyser_soze]

Thing is, how long ago were those threads put up? 2002? 2003? Like I said, last time I was there, plenty of the folks were local, and there was a pretty even mix of asian, black and white peeps.

 

[Belushi]

Excellent resurrection of one of Urbans classic arguements.

Maybe we could let Anna Key back in just for this one thread

 

[potential]

Thing is, how long ago were those threads put up? 2002? 2003? Like I said, last time I was there, plenty of the folks were local, and there was a pretty even mix of asian, black and white peeps.

you are dead right more of a mix than the albert, ouch !!!

 

[Crispy]

Excellent resurrection of one of Urbans classic arguements.

Maybe we could let Anna Key back in just for this one thread

You think he's not reading the thread alrady?
Reliving past glories, swilling a glass of wiskey, telling all-comers the awe-inspiring tales of old.

 

[editor]

How dare these outsiders spend money in brixton, shoot em i say !!!
why dont you just turn the argument around

Hey, knee jerk boy. Where did I say I had a problem with people coming into Brixton for a night out? Mind you, I do have a problem with people coming into Brixton to buy drugs, and I couldn't help but notice the large amount of dealers hanging around the place, or the increasing amount of fights breaking out there.

There was a massive incident there about two weeks ago that involved three police vans worth of cops steaming in. And I've heard of some awful other things happening too.

So, no, that's not what I want in my street, thanks. How about you?

oh them lot there not local they look different why dont you fuck off back to your own country is that what your sayin

Have you any idea what a prick you've just made of yourself by making up all that offensive bullshit?

 

[kyser_soze]

and I couldn't help but notice the large amount of dealers hanging around the place, or the increasing amount of fights breaking out there.

On coldharbour lane? What next - close KFC and Woolworths cos the density of dealers is higher outside those places as well? There are incidents where pigvans need to be called all over Brixton, not just outside Living.

Maybe Mass should be shut down as well - lots of dealers congregate in the peace garden I've found...

 

[editor]

Thing is, how long ago were those threads put up? 2002? 2003? Like I said, last time I was there, plenty of the folks were local, and there was a pretty even mix of asian, black and white peeps.

Which was when, exactly? I pass right outside the bar just about every single weekend at all hours and have a pretty good idea of the kind of crowd the place attracts. Seen more than a few scuffles recently too.

When was the last time you swung by then?

 

[editor]

On coldharbour lane? What next - close KFC and Woolworths cos the density of dealers is higher outside those places as well? There are incidents where pigvans need to be called all over Brixton, not just outside Living.

Seeing as you're suggesting it's an everyday event, perhaps you could recall the last time you saw three police vans worth of coppers charging into a Brixton bar on a Saturday night?

 

[Crispy]

It may well have been 'upmarket' back when it first opened. 'Big Name' DJ's and all that, guestlists and taxi'd in posh money. But as far as I can make out, these days it's your completely average town center bar/club with loud shit music and pricey drinks. Everywhere has one.

 

[kyser_soze]

3 Saturdays ago, about 11am.

Where I live - Tulse Hill - there's been a shooting, a stabbing at my local, and when I was out buying some munchies last Saturday the whole of the White Hart had turfed out into the street to watch a couple of people kicking off...

I pass right outside the bar just about every single weekend at all hours and have a pretty good idea of the kind of crowd the place attracts.

What, you go and ask them all where they come from? Whether they've bought some drugs from a local street dealer?

I know, there are loads of touts and dealers out whenever there's a gig on at the Academy...let's get arsey and close that down as well!

 

[potential]

You've got to be joking, right? The Living Bar is famous for out-of-towners taxi-ing in on a Saturday night and then staggering out at 3am and jumping straight into a cab..

I don't know anyone from Brixton who regularly drank there .

just because you dont like it i there, it has brought many a good clean nigth out for locals non-locals...
bringing up one incident is a bit sad eh... like kyser soyse said living bah on the scale of drug dealing bars in brixton i would say bottom , im right yeah !

 

[kyser_soze]

Seeing as you're suggesting it's an everyday event, perhaps you could recall the last time you saw three police vans worth of coppers charging into a Brixton bar on a Saturday night?

In Brixton? I can't, but vans AND a car showed up at the White Hart.

I'm not suggesting it is an everyday occurence...but you seem to be singling out one bar and saying it's uniquely gifted at attracting trouble, the 'wrong sort' of people in Brixton, whereas IME it's little different from 100 other similar places not just in London, but all over the UK.

 

[potential]

Seeing as you're suggesting it's an everyday event, perhaps you could recall the last time you saw three police vans worth of coppers charging into a Brixton bar on a Saturday night?

last night at 10-10.30 the peace garden van pulled up one came up rushcroft rd, two guys ran like forrest gump up brixton hill
so living is a big drug problem in brixton....
yeah your right i dont like tourist drug buyers or local drug buyers...
thats not the argument the living bah is

 

[ChrisFilter]

Thing is, how long ago were those threads put up? 2002? 2003? Like I said, last time I was there, plenty of the folks were local, and there was a pretty even mix of asian, black and white peeps.

Yeah, but mud sticks. It got a name for itself amongst the Brixton 'community' (as opposed to middle-class white kids like us) as a problem and it was never going to lose that name.

I suspect the cheering on this thread is a hangover from a time when Mr Merritt was in charged, and would have been considered a victory against a wanker.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

How do I hate thee, let me count the ways.....

I hate it because when my daughter fainted nearby they tried to charge for the glass of water they were asked for by a first-aider, I hate it because when I went in there and got a pint of guinness half of it was head and they charged well over the odds, I hate it because someone came out of there and tried to sell my young son powders when he was waiting for a bus, I hate it because the owner was boorish and slapped my friend on the arse because she was 'only a waitress', I hate it because when there was a stabbing outside they washed away the evidence from the crime scene before the police arrived (and then called me a liar even though I'd seen it happen with my own eyes), I hate it because friends of mine who attempted to go there were turned away for very iffy reasons, I hate it because they flouted planning laws and enforcement orders.....ooh I could go on but I'm ill today and the effort is tiring me and I'm just glad it's gone.

 

[editor]

just because you dont like it i there, it has brought many a good clean nigth out for locals non-locals...
bringing up one incident is a bit sad eh... like kyser soyse said living bah on the scale of drug dealing bars in brixton i would say bottom , im right yeah !

Thing is, you don't know half the story of the place, or why it managed to successfully piss off so many locals, but you'll be hard pressed to find a business or resident along that street that has a good word to say about the place.

Now why do you think that might be? Any ideas?

Oh, and an apology for that offensive and uncalled for racist slur might be in order too, you know.

 

[editor]

3 Saturdays ago, about 11am.

Bit early, no?

 

[kyser_soze]

Sorry, 11pm...

 

[editor]

...ooh I could go on but I'm ill today and the effort is tiring me and I'm just glad it's gone.

I could add a lot more too if I could be arsed.

 

[potential]

Thing

Oh, and an apology for that offensive and uncalled for racist slur might be in order too, you know.

you said outsiders comig into brixton and staggering out straight into cabs at 3am.... whats wrong with that ???? you wernt a local long time ago ?
i turned you argument arount swapping brixton for battersea..
you just think local bars for local people......

 

[potential]

just read your no34 point im off to work....
local bars for local people, your suggesting

 

[editor]

i turned you argument arount swapping brixton for battersea..
you just think local bars for local people......

Here's what you actually said, you deceitful little shit.

oh them lot there not local they look different why dont you fuck off back to your own country is that what your sayin

"Look different"...."fuck off back to your own country"...

I do hope you'll have the grace to apologise for making up this offensive, racist drivel.

 

[Crispy]

racist, what? it was a metaphor.

 

[newbie]

Glad to see the Living Bah go, but I would hate to see the premises turn into 'luxury lifestyle' apartments/nail bar/Timbuktu Fried Chicken or whatever.

I agree that the area doesn't need more upmarket flats, but what's wrong with a nailbar or fried chicken place?

 

[CharlieAddict]

what brixton needs is a decent-cheapy pho restaurant.
or a health store selling organic produces and herbal drugs.

Thing is, how long ago were those threads put up? 2002? 2003? Like I said, last time I was there, plenty of the folks were local, and there was a pretty even mix of asian, black and white peeps.

asian?
the only asian people i see when i was there or any pub in brixton is me!
okay, the you got the odd night when there's one other...

 

[editor]

racist, what? it was a metaphor.

"look different...." "fuck off back to your own country...."

Sure. Great metaphor.

Not even the slightest suggestion of racism there. Oh no.