Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
are there?
really?
you mean to say that shit transport infrastructure is shit or that inner city shitty life can be shitty?
really...
the OP is not a Londoner, don't be so defensive.
are there?
really?
you mean to say that shit transport infrastructure is shit or that inner city shitty life can be shitty?
really...
Transport wilderness but you'll like it anyway![]()

the OP is not a Londoner, don't be so defensive.
it's not be so defesnsive you are saying that and entire areas or sub area of a place can be condemed permenantly becuase of a few run down parts or an occasional (comparitively) incident
or extrapolate that those bad experinces are the normal rather than the rare occurence.
do you thik people would continue to live in an area which was conventionally violent?
is stoke newington or shoreditch shit areas with exorbatent crime rates what about victoria park? see hackney is a big fucking place and to say it's all shit violent is worst than other areas would be to say that scotland is all shit, based on the krankees...
and f you can find other inner city areas which don't have a similar problem regardless of the city in the uk i'd be suprised...
innercites are charcherised by the high numbers of people living their from all walks of life it stands to reason that if there's going to be a high population desnity that not all of them are going to be law abiding...
It's typical elietism or tribalism whihc makes others run down an entire area without even thinking about it and has fuck all to do with being a londoner...
I know a lot of people like it but I had too many issues with the place and as a life long south londoner it was obvious that I wasn't from round there which caused issues. I've never truly got east London but give it a go.
It's when your working on something with a group of other companies and every other company except for yours has had thefts or violent incidents occur during daylight hours on street, and your job requires you to wear high visibility gear from time to time, that pretty much just screams target - that you walk around with eyes out everywhere. It also when you stand at a bus stop on the stretch of road that used to be lovingly referred to as the "murder mile" about three years before and your the only person from your own race. Having said that I got the same kind of looks when I was in Brick Lane a couple of Sunday's ago. It's when local people refer to the laws of the "People's Republic of Homerton" that you know that Hackney is a pretty special place. I'll go as far as Essex Road and that's it........
lol the 'museum' is well shit!
I personally think Hackney is one of the best connected boroughs in London, transport wise.

lol the 'museum' is well shit!
in spite of the fact it has not one single tube station?![]()
maybe one entrance 

in spite of the fact it has not one single tube station?![]()
Hackney is fucking wonderful. I've lived here for seven years and would recommend it to anyone. Had dinner in Gilbert and George's local restaurant last week. George is looking a bit peeky.![]()

Tubes are a curse, not a blessing. You'll learn that after a while in the smoke...
i've lived away from a convenient tube station since 1994, not that much hassle to get around tbh

Getting used to it is one thing. Now I've moved to Bethnal Green I can, for example, get to Soho in 15 mins instead of pushing an hour from Hackney. That junction at Dalston....Junction is always hell. You know I'm not going to rant at you regarding Hackers but it's like my mate who says that mock-duck made from seitan is just like the real thing where he hasn't actually eaten real duck for 25 years![]()
Tubes are a curse, not a blessing. You'll learn that after a while in the smoke...
i'd never get a bus to the west end, train to liverpool st, 10 minutes or so, tube to the west end another 15 or so
Why would you be walking to Dalston Kingsland?Dunlace Road to Dalston Kingsland is a fair stroll. Not that I have to care anymore, like.
Why would you be walking to Dalston Kingsland?

And that is a nonsense. One of the biggest deals of moving to the Smoke is the Underground.
i thought that when i moved here, and was happy to live in buckhurst hill as it was on the tube - takes fucking ages to get anywhere by tube from there though
like i said, i'm used to not living near a tube, and even when the hackney tubes are opened in dalston and haggerston, they aren't that close to me, so I won't be using them much
I lived in Hackney for a year and frankly it was as bad as living on the South Coast and having 2-an-hour buses to get anywhere. Defeated the whole object* of being in Ldn.
* an exaggeration for effect but not much.
