What's all the fuss about.

[Mation]

Utterly surreal thread.

Isn't it just?

 

[bluestreak]

Again, this may be true, and perhaps it's unfortunate; but I don't see how it's possible to claim that this is the government's fault. More people are deciding to borrow money, and some of them are finding it difficult to keep to the terms of the loan. What would you do about it? Would you like to make it illegal to borrow money. Or do you suggest that the government pays off people's debts? Or is the point that somehow, as a government we should miraculously ensure that people don't borrow money irresponsibly. Quite apart from this. A lot of people find that the ability to borrow money cheaply, makes it possible for them to take control of their lives in a way that is unprecedented historically. And the economy as a whole benefits from this. Which means we all do.

Why do you think people are borrowing more money? And how do you think the government should help them not to?

i'd work to increase the average income compared to necessary expenditure. i'd remove legislation that allows what amounts to legalised loan sharks. i'd institute processes that need to be followed so that no-one can borrow money outside of their needs. i'd give financial training in schools properly. i'd make it ahrder for loan shark companies to set up. i'd increase wages, lower prices, make property easier to attain for low income buyers i'd set up a system whereby banks cannot lend money tp people without set proved income that can pay them back based on a national rate, rather than being able to borrow massive amounts and the only check being say YES i can pay it back. you're lucky tone, you get everything hadned to you on a plate, you don;t know what it is to have to lie to banks to survive. you know nothing about the lives of the poor and you know it. answer being, a fairer pay scale, taking housing out of private hands, a more worthy welfare state (oh i forgot you privatsed that too), easier debt relief for the poorest, laws that prevent the mentally ll from taking loans. the list is endless.

 

[tbaldwin]

Cor going to increase wages and lower prices and take property out of private hands...
LET HIM BORROW YOUR WAND...GO ON.....LET HIM BORROW YOUR WAND.....

 

[bluestreak]

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[tbaldwin]

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Oh so it's not only Edwina Curry,who was impressed by his wand?????

 

[Tony Blair]

i'd work to increase the average income compared to necessary expenditure. i'd remove legislation that allows what amounts to legalised loan sharks. i'd institute processes that need to be followed so that no-one can borrow money outside of their needs. i'd give financial training in schools properly. i'd make it ahrder for loan shark companies to set up. i'd increase wages, lower prices, make property easier to attain for low income buyers i'd set up a system whereby banks cannot lend money tp people without set proved income that can pay them back based on a national rate, rather than being able to borrow massive amounts and the only check being say YES i can pay it back. you're lucky tone, you get everything hadned to you on a plate, you don;t know what it is to have to lie to banks to survive. you know nothing about the lives of the poor and you know it. answer being, a fairer pay scale, taking housing out of private hands, a more worthy welfare state (oh i forgot you privatsed that too), easier debt relief for the poorest, laws that prevent the mentally ll from taking loans. the list is endless.

But the government doesn't control wages, nor does it control prices. We have created the conditions to ensure a buoyant housing market, in the interests of the national economy, but that's not the same as saying we control house prices.

Are you seriously suggesting we should engineer a housing crash? Do you think such an idea would be popular with the millions of people who've bought houses at high prices? Take housing out of private hands? Do you think we should buy it off them or steal it?

As to loan sharks, one of the great benefits of having regulated loan companies, is that money is now easily available at perhaps 8 or 9 percent, whereas if this were illegal, people would go to unregulated companies who charged maybe 150 % and enforced repayment with baseball bats.

 

[Tony Blair]

What I really dislike about your time as PM Mr Blair is this extraordinary use of public relations. In reality, the New Labour faction only exists as a way of manipulating and distorting infomation -something that you and Messrs Campbell, Mandleson and Powell (the three architects of the New Labour concept) have done without any regard for democracy. The WMD scandal and the "dodgy dosier" was the most outrageous example of media enginneering since Joseph Goebbels. Why did you not resign over this? You have no integrity, and shall go down in history as a liar and a crook.

Depends who writes the history books.

 

[Tony Blair]

I mean...look...okay? It's not rocket science...

It's true, it's actually surprisingly easy once you get the hang of it.

 

[Firky]

Class thread

 

[tbaldwin]

Tony, I have to say if it wasnt for you,i probably wouldnt be here right now! As someone with a very poor chance of living (due to terminal hodgkins cancer) I had a stem cell transplant in late 2004. I dont think it would have happened without the extra funding your govt put into the NHS.
So i am grateful to you and New Labour for that.
As you may be aware the chance of a Stem cell being succesful is around 30% and for a few days,you are as close to death and open to infection as humanly possible..Many people dont make it hrough this time...
I was in a private room and to get to my point.... The Cleaners (Contracted Out) were a danger to my health first cleaning the toilet and then cleaning my room with the same cloth! So despite all the extra money and apparently the stem cell costs something in the region of £100,000 (with all the related treatment) it was all put at risk by your failure to stop the contracting out of cleaning the shit pay and demoralised staff.
Some of the worst private companies are attracted to public services and there seems to be too little done to stop the worst offenders.. We have dirty hospitals and a scandalously bad rail service that is making some very dubious people rich...
You need to go beyond spending extra money and looking at the very poor value we are all getting from private companies for public services..

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Hello Tony,

Here is a question I would like answered.

Your friend, Melvyn Bragg, in 2004, disclosed that you were on the verge of quitting. Bragg is quoted at the time as saying ""The real stress was personal and family, which matters most to him," Bragg told a TV interviewer. "And my guess is that consideration of his family became very pressing and that was what made him think things over very carefully."

He also stated that whatever the problem was, it was nothing to do with your marriage.

Whatever it was that caused you such pressure has never been revealed in the media and has been a source of much speculation.

Can you now tell us what was the source of that stress that nearly made you give up public office?

A bit below the belt. Naughty!

 

[free spirit]

hey tony, simple question for you... when are you going to stop making your once a year big speach on climate change and actually do something about it?

Even Thatcher managed to sort out the ozone layer in her time, you on the other hand have done precisely fuck all other than talk the talk. If you're looking for one grand project to sort out your place in the history books, this is it.

It's not even like it's a particularly complicated problem to sort out, the technology exists and is mostly pretty well proven. If you took the money you've wasted chasing after oil in Iraq, combined it with the cash you're about to waste replacing trident & going for the next generation of nuclear power stations, and put it into energy efficiency, renewable energy, sorting out the grid for full scale localised renewables, dynamic demand etc. decent low cost public transport (trains not planes innit), etc. etc. we could cut this countries emmissions in half at the same time as reducing our reliance on imported oil and gas that is increasingly going to fuck up our economy.

Instead you continue to piss about with half arsed schemes offering a few million here and there that only last 2-4 years, or your latest green wash offering of the climate challenge... it's all very well giving out 6 million to raise awareness about climate change, but the thing is that the majority of people in this country already understand it perfectly well - we're just waiting for you to pull you fucking finger out and do something about it. Please could you explain why you've cut funding to micro-renewables by roughly a third despite promises from sucessive energy ministers at the time of the 2003 energy white paper to increase this funding.

In fact could you explain the need to have a second energy review so soon after this white paper? Would it be fair to say that this second energy review effectively scuppered any action for a further 3 years at a vital time? Could it be that both this second unnecessary review & the cut in funding to renewables were both linked to your determination to push through a new generation of nuclear power? You say renewables can't fill the gap and we need more nuclear, pointing at the slow uptake of renewables in this country, yet you neglect to point out your governments abismal record in supporting the development of renewable power in this country, and how this might potentially have caused the slow uptake. link

<I so wish this was the man himself>

 

[Azrael23]

hey tony, simple question for you... when are you going to stop making your once a year big speach on climate change and actually do something about it?

Even Thatcher managed to sort out the ozone layer in her time, you on the other hand have done precisely fuck all other than talk the talk. If you're looking for one grand project to sort out your place in the history books, this is it.

It's not even like it's a particularly complicated problem to sort out, the technology exists and is mostly pretty well proven. If you took the money you've wasted chasing after oil in Iraq, combined it with the cash you're about to waste replacing trident & going for the next generation of nuclear power stations, and put it into energy efficiency, renewable energy, sorting out the grid for full scale localised renewables, dynamic demand etc. decent low cost public transport (trains not planes innit), etc. etc. we could cut this countries emmissions in half at the same time as reducing our reliance on imported oil and gas that is increasingly going to fuck up our economy.

Instead you continue to piss about with half arsed schemes offering a few million here and there that only last 2-4 years, or your latest green wash offering of the climate challenge... it's all very well giving out 6 million to raise awareness about climate change, but the thing is that the majority of people in this country already understand it perfectly well - we're just waiting for you to pull you fucking finger out and do something about it. Please could you explain why you've cut funding to micro-renewables by roughly a third despite promises from sucessive energy ministers at the time of the 2003 energy white paper to increase this funding.

In fact could you explain the need to have a second energy review so soon after this white paper? Would it be fair to say that this second energy review effectively scuppered any action for a further 3 years at a vital time? Could it be that both this second unnecessary review & the cut in funding to renewables were both linked to your determination to push through a new generation of nuclear power? You say renewables can't fill the gap and we need more nuclear, pointing at the slow uptake of renewables in this country, yet you neglect to point out your governments abismal record in supporting the development of renewable power in this country, and how this might potentially have caused the slow uptake. link



<I so wish this was the man himself>

WELL SAID. (and yeah so do I!!) Sadly they wouldn`t let me on question time.

 

[MatthewCuffe]

On what basis could you say to Mr.Bush "I am with you" before consulting Parliament and the people of the United Kingdom?

http://www.impeachblair.org

 

[William of Walworth]

Have you abandoned this website Tony??

 

[Grego Morales]

Have you abandoned this website Tony??

Yeah, I was thinking about this thread yesterday and how much fun it was. Maybe he'll come back when he resigns...whenever the fuck that'll be. 2054 is my guess.

 

[Tony Blair]

Climate change is one of the central issues affecting us all, and I need to consider my reply carefully.

 

[Azrael23]

We need more growth to pay for environmental programmes right?

Yet the conditions for growth are what cause the problem in the first place.


I THINK WE NEED TO POUR PETROL ON THE FIRE TO PUT IT OUT.